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 Post subject: Re: Bar width
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:55 pm 
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First, I think this is a great discussion, whether or not it is strictly compliant with the subject.

On this point I strongly agree. The same applies to front end stiffness arguments. Climbing is mostly aerobic, and I want to use mostly large, less easily fatigued, muscles to carry the load, not my skinny arms which cry out for mercy at the slightest insult. Better to be smooth, balanced, relaxed and let my legs do the heavy lifting. They're more than up to the task, since the limiting factor is my heart and lungs.

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11.4 wrote:
If you want to race, or ride really hard, you better have solid core strength or you will have back problems and hip problems, which turn into knee problems, shoulder problems, and generally shitty riding performance.


Nope. The key is to learn how to ride without holding tension in your core. *That* is what causes problems. It's important to be relaxed and have good posture... especially if your activity lasts 5+ hours.

If the race or ride is short and intense, and requires some upper body strength (MTB, track, cross), then of course you may feel some discomfort at first if you haven't trained for it.

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KWalker wrote:
...although they tend to do some core work in the off-season, but strictly for cross training purposes and because they lose basic human functionality by sitting on a bike for 25-35hrs a week and then on the couch recovering. For them its just about ensuring that they don't lose some very basic human abilities...



This.

Its why I like to lift and encourage riders to do so. It has nothing to do with improving power on the bike, core muscles, aesthetics, it's about ensuring they don't break doing everything *other* than cycling, like putting your back out lifting a pot plant (Brad McGee reference there :lol: )


@Imaking20 strength *is* important in BJJ but it is a rather different sport, maximal and sub maximal application of force occurs a lot more than cycling. But the "trunk" muscles are no more or less important than any other. The body is one piece and any weakness or imbalance will be more likely to fatigue and or injure.

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BJJ rounds are also much shorter any bike race save for the track stuff. At least they were when I did MMA and back then 5 minute rounds seemed like for god damned ever.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:30 am 
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One thing to consider about bar width is your preferred climbing position.
Those who Prefer to climb on the tops may want their bars to be wider- it just feels good on the tops.
Those who climb on the hoods may be able to get away with a narrower bar. They don't use the tops very much.


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I'd like to see the power profiles for those who say core doesn't count. I'm glad you all feel that way. It's nice to have people to beat in races.


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I've just bought some 38's, I usually ride a 42 and I'm 6ft.
They where so cheap and light I thought I may as well give it a go and see how I get on.


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11.4 wrote:
I'd like to see the power profiles for those who say core doesn't count. I'm glad you all feel that way. It's nice to have people to beat in races.


You can see mine in the training thread.

Of course my poor power makes you right. Keep up with the crunches.

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Last week I switched out my 42s for a set of 40s and, so far, my n=1 experiment is going very well. On the first ride they felt really narrow and by the third they felt completely normal. They feel better and I feel like I have more control when out of the saddle.

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i just went from 42 to 40. works well enough. i'll race on 40s this season. im short though, and probably should have been on 40s anyways. 5'7 here.

edit: actually bought my 40s from 11.4 up there haha


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