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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:50 pm 
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What is interesting is there seems to me to be potential to make free hubs that are not Dura Ace 11 compatible work?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:55 pm 
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Eye-catching topic title fully borne out by the content within. What even made you think the conversion to 11sp was possible, had you already been inside a Red shifter and decided that the mechanism was suitable and there was enough material on the ratchet?

I wonder if Shimano producing a mechanical 11sp will prompt Sram into doing the same thing.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:08 pm 
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BeeBee30 wrote:
What is interesting is there seems to me to be potential to make free hubs that are not Dura Ace 11 compatible work?


Sure, if the hub has a DS flange that's far enough in and the hub leaves enough room. Monchito started with a Mavic hub which already has an extra spacer to run Shimano cassettes. Hubs that can fit Campy freehubs without redishing would be the best bet.

I expect to see Sram 11sp in a year or so. It'd be great if it was just a new ratchet.


Monchito, any chance of producing the ratchets, possibly on an exchange basis? Are they different between the models of shifters?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:54 pm 
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Super-impressive work. I am also curious why you even thought this would be possible.

For the cassette, could you simply add an 11 cog to a Recon 12-25?

I also like the 18, but for that I have a 12-23, and skip the 11.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:31 pm 
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Hats off to you Monchito. Now, if you, Berk, Weeracerweenie and Wally went into business I'm sure you could come up with an new entire WW branded groupset.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:41 am 
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and how it is you have the access and skill to the machinery necessary for such an undertaking!


It's fairly basic machining stuff. Have a quick read over some car forums and you'll see ridiculous backyard operators. As far as bikes go though, this is next level stuff.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:48 am 
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It may be traditional machines, but looking at those tools' size, I'd hardly call them basic.
What impressed me was how well the steps were thought out: making a tool to hold the part, I'm assuming you took measurements for where the groove would need to be to move the derailleur the correct amount, etc. Or maybe you tried a dozen times and only showed us the successful pics? Somehow I doubt it.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:12 am 
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I think we should start a collection so this twisted genius can get his Dura Ace 9000 cassette and works his magic :twisted:

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Que bueno!


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Amazing stuff ! :unbelievable: :unbelievable: :unbelievable: :thumbup:


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That's the spirit! :beerchug:

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you sir, have titanium ball bearings.

nice work!


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Monchito , this must have been the medicine you asked your nurse for.
Tan limpio como amigo :beerchug:

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wow this is some pretty impressive stuff. good job!


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this is why i joined weenies ...

great stuff

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