wow great reply but i have to ask why use the adapter if you were willing to drill the holes? can't you just put the cleat straight on then?

The 'flat' section undersides of my Bont shoes are not entirely flat or big enough: that's Size 39, bigger sizes may be maybe not have a flat enough area. Have a good look at your shoes and the Speedplay-supplied adapter plates you have installed. The Northwave adapter takes up (some of - as I said the set-up is not perfect) the slack. So yes it works but not perfectly for me.
I'm not precious about drilling, modifying or hacking any component if I think I can end up with something better. In this case I managed to end up with 3mm or so less stack, so it was well worth it.

My size 47-Wide Bonts arrived today. They fit fine, my toes are no longer crunched up inside. This confirms what I thought about Bont's sizing tending to be small. I might take a stab at heat molding them this weekend.

I am going to drill my Bonts for speedplay soon as well. I have the thin metal carbon sole protector and will need to use the rear snap shim to keep it level. The sole of the shoe curves slightly as mentioned to fit perfectly to a keo/spd-sl cleat. The snap shim will help level the cleat so it is mounted flat. Stack height will still be very low as the cleat is sill directly on the sole.

it would be awesome if you did a "how to" with pictures when you do drill them

I'm going thru a similar experience I think
Got sized up for 45 Wide and my feet feel crunched up inside. Measured 281 & 282mm. My 2nd and 3rd toe are longer than my big toe tho... That is my problem I think and going to need a 46 or 47. I've emailed bont lets see if they get back to me.

Well, you guys have convinced me to give them a whirl. I received a pair of CTT1 (and a matching S5, thanks, Dan Martin) the other day.

From the perspective of build quality, after reading some of the other posts I was anticipating more of a 'hand-made' look and feel. My first impression is that the product is well-made and executed.

The carbon footbed is very even and has none of the extra flashing that I expected to see. The finish is very smooth and clear, as well. The upper is well-finished. All of the stitching is even and there are no overruns. The straps are correctly cut and are flat-finished perfectly. The shoe includes several different types of materials (microfibre, mesh, rubber, etc.) all of the peices fit together very well. The joints are nice and flat with no 'hot spots' transferred to the inside of the shoe. The interface between the carbon footbed and the upper is flawless all the way around the shoe. I had heard that some people had problems with glue on the upper. There was none of that. From the perspective of fit, that may be another story.

I have been on Sidi for many, many years (in fact, since the rise of the manufactured shoe vs hand-made leather-soled shoes, I think I have only worn three brands of shoe). The fit feels very strange versus Sidi (think: Edward Green vs Allen Edmonds). It is all down to the 'bathtub' design of the footbed, but the design principle extends throughout the shoe and the design of the upper is also very close-fitting. It is quite a different 'feel', kind of like the difference between a slip-lasted shoe and a board-lasted shoe (come to think of it, that is a pretty apt description of the difference in construction).

I have a narrow ('D' width) foot and the Bont appears to fit me well. If you had a wide heel or needed a roomier toe box, I am not sure that they would work for you. The toe box, in particular, is much lower than Sidi.

I am going to try to 'heat mould' them this weekend and will report back.

I'm interested in getting custom vaypors. If after taking a mold of my foot it is found that there is forefoot varus does Bont build that into the sole of the shoe or will I still need shims under the cleat?

Some weights here:

Bont Vaypor 2013 Size 47 (no cleats no insoles) 72g above claimer however these are 47s


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Look cleats


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Sidas insoles (now these are quite heavy...these were originally for a pair of sidis but now that the bonts are a much better fit, Im gonna have a go on the original insoles, which should be much lighter)


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Good weight. My Vaypors were just over 600g with stock insoles in 46.5 wide. I assume your shoes are standard width and a little lighter.

standard width indeed - do you remember what the insoles weighted?

155 is fine for now as i have heavy overshoes/socks on but if theres a big difference with the standard insoles, i might just keep them for a race day 'lightest configuration' option in the spring. (given they are as comphy)

@canbakay
Could you tell me where you got your vaypors? i can only find white in the 47.

sigma sport in london - and a good website, Nick Dendy is the shoe specialist there if you wanna have a chat.

Thanks for that, much appreciated. Their website shows them as out of stock but i will send them an email.

I don't remember the weight of the stock insoles but they are really light. I would say under 10 grams each. They are a very thin foam. Bont says to use them over other insoles as the point is to mold the carbon tub to your foot shape but I found a little more support on longer rides with my heat molded insoles.