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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:43 am 
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I see these are in some shops. So has anyone got a pair yet they can give us the run down on?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:57 am 
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I found a review that said there were some early spring position problems. Since they use a flat spring like the AX perseus, this should be very easy to remedy.

They look great. A light set of pads and holders and they would be a competitive option at the pricepoint. I also am curious as to how closely they are tied in with AX Lightness. I always drool over AX designs so I dig these brakes.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:39 pm 
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Hi,

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I also am curious as to how closely they are tied in with AX Lightness.


Designed by AX, manufactured in Asia.

Ciao, ;)

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:43 pm 
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want.

I wonder if these would be an upgrade in stopping power vs the 1st gen kcnc brakes? Not thrilled about the finish, though.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:04 pm 
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I agree . The paint looks very heavy and the white stripe is awful .They look a bit cheap .
I don't know why they did not just keep the nude carbon look of the other ax brakes. Both bolts should be black . It looks like someone has replaced one of the bolts .


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:40 pm 
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Just speculating, but perhaps the nude carbon of these (Engage) brakes would not look as good as the nude carbon on the AX Lightness branded brakes. And unlike AX Lightness branded brakes, low production cost is of the essence for Engage products.


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I guess you could always spend a few hours stripping them down yourself! But that would be pretty pain staking actually! I wish we had an updated Fairwheel shoot out for comparison.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:43 am 
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I bought the set that was advertised here. As soon as I get them I plan on removing the gloss and the white stripe. Don't care what's underneath, can always paint them matte black if the carbon is really bad, but I doubt that will be the case.
I'll report back next month.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:24 am 
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dereksmalls wrote:
I wish we had an updated Fairwheel shoot out for comparison.


^^^^ This.


UpFromOne wrote:
I'll report back next month.


Could you also post up some photos? Most 'around the net' are the marketing photos from AX Lightness or low res, low quality home shots.
Thanks :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:28 am 
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Remind me of Campag monoplanar calipers. Let's hope they brake better than those. I expect they will be fine for dry weather use or all round on aluminium rims, but for 15% downhills in the wet on carbon rims probably not the right solution.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:34 am 
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UpFromOne wrote:
I bought the set that was advertised here. As soon as I get them I plan on removing the gloss and the white stripe. Don't care what's underneath, can always paint them matte black if the carbon is really bad, but I doubt that will be the case.
I'll report back next month.


Please make sure you do before tuning weights and after tuning weights + photos. Did you get the pad holders to go with them?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:00 am 
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any word yet on how you liked the brakes? I was wondering if you could have a pick on how much it comes in at with the pads and the pad holders too?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:46 pm 
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anything on this yet?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:08 am 
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Hi,

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I was wondering if you could have a pick on how much it comes in at with the pads and the pad holders too?


A set of 4 pad holders + pads should be around 55g unless the pads are Corima cork ones.

One of the german websites that sell these brakes states that these Gavial brakes accept both Shimano/Sram style padholders as well as Campagnolo. The regular Engage pad holder are Shimano standard so these should be fine but how about Campa?
I'd like to see that confirmed if possible.

While I'm at it, one of the dealers weighed a set so here's the breakdown:

•FR: 70 Gramm
•RR: 51 Gramm
•Cable holder: 10 Gramm
•Total: 131 Gramm


Ciao, ;)

EDIT: found a possible solution to my problem: apparently the Tune carbon pad holders take all pads, weigh 45g four a complete set but cost an arm and a leg.... Can't have it all, I guess.

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What accounts for the large disparity between front and rear weights?


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