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For your next cyclocross bike, which brakes will you use
Disc's 63%  63%  [ 70 ]
Canti's 26%  26%  [ 29 ]
V's 12%  12%  [ 13 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:13 pm 
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Awesome job posting a quiet video of a guy riding cantis to show us how noisy discs are. FAIL.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:12 pm 
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limba wrote:
Awesome job posting a quiet video of a guy riding cantis to show us how noisy discs are. FAIL.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:54 pm 
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limba wrote:
Awesome job posting a quiet video of a guy riding cantis to show us how noisy discs are. FAIL.


In fairness he was wrong about the actual hardware, but the video clip did correctly replicate that horrid, nail on a chalkboard torture that is foreign matter on a disc surface :) I will admit despite not loving the look of discs on Cross Bikes .... if I could have a cold weather cross racer where snow is present.. discs wouldn't be bad.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:26 am 
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Rich, we have met once before. Will you do the little race in NJ this weekend?
If so ride my bike w/ discs for a few laps.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:23 am 
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i prefer "nail on a chalkboard noises" rather from a disc, than from my carbonrim

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:33 am 
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I notice that Stybar rode with disc brakes at Boonen's charity CX race.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:00 am 
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Apparently he didn't ride with discs. He just switched his bike on the last lap so it would be in the pictures when he crossed the finish line.

I wasn't there. That's what I read.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:08 am 
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Here are the best pics so far of the new Red discs.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/12/ ... xla_267379


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:21 am 
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limba wrote:
Apparently he didn't ride with discs. He just switched his bike on the last lap so it would be in the pictures when he crossed the finish line.

I wasn't there. That's what I read.

:noidea:


That's possible, cos I didn't notice them until the end of the race. I'll watch the vid again. Seems to me that some riders are only on them for sponsorship reasons. I had a discussion with one person at the weekend asking why the likes of Nys doesn't use them. Apart from the fact that he probably doesn't need them, cost might be a factor. He is probably retiring soon, so changing 30 odd wheels, or whatever amount he has, probably doesn't make sense for him. But what do I know?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:09 am 
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Nys? Worried about the expense? He is a sponsored rider at the top of the sport! He doesn't ride discs because he doesn't trust them for 'cross. Note that he used discs for XC... :beerchug:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:05 pm 
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Doyler wrote:
I haven't checked extensively but it seems like more of the American pros are using discs: Powers, Trebon, Johnson (I think) to name a few that I have noticed. Whereas the Europeans are still on rim brakes.


The manufacturers are the ones driving it. Nearly all the top Americans are SRAM sponsored, whereas the Europeans are almost exclusively Shimano. When Shimano has a product, expect to see their riders on them.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:40 pm 
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JBV wrote:
Doyler wrote:
I haven't checked extensively but it seems like more of the American pros are using discs: Powers, Trebon, Johnson (I think) to name a few that I have noticed. Whereas the Europeans are still on rim brakes.


The manufacturers are the ones driving it. Nearly all the top Americans are SRAM sponsored, whereas the Europeans are almost exclusively Shimano. When Shimano has a product, expect to see their riders on them.


Stybar has bikes that are disc equipped, shows them off on twitter, but still uses canti's for racing.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:14 pm 
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XC mountina bikes are almost exclusively on discs now. Now while I ride a MTB with canti for XC riding the braking is poor compared to my disc brake XC MTB.

If I was riding my XC bike of CX type track I know which bike would give me better braking. Why there is even a debate I do not know.

I'm sure when Tuilo came up with the quick release there were many who said they don't need it or want it That was industry driven, he created an entire company around it. In fact if the naysayers had there way there would be no advancement and we would still be riding bone shakers. Maybe this a little harsh but I think discs are a good idea.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:18 am 
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There's a debate because in cyclocross racing you don't have to stop. You use your brakes to slow down. Cantis work well enough and they're a lot lighter.
Current disc brakes are heavy and have and on/off type feel. By the end of 2013 we will see the 2014 bikes with RED discs and then in 2014-15 hopefully we'll see Dura-Ace discs. When Shimano makes something serious it's over for cantis.


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People will eventually figure it out: http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/01/ ... mud_271112" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :beerchug:


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