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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:21 am 
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I agree Novatec A291 and F482 hubs are absolutly fine and cheap. They weigh 325g a pair so not the lightest but they are cheap. Alchemy hubs will save 40g but cost more. I would rather spend the money saved elsewhere perhaps on a night out.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:31 am 
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kavitator wrote:
Zondas - but rear rim is heavy at 550g

Really? What generation of Zonda's (I heard they got lighter recentley) Would the Shamal rims weigh the same? I can't imagine a 550g rim building into a 820g (weight of Shamal) wheel...

and on the note of hubs, why not go for the Novatec SL version? My set weighed 289g (60 front and 229 rear)

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:00 pm 
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I weighted Zonda rear rim 2010
hub has around 240g i think

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:47 pm 
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A Shamal has almost no spokes which save alot weight. If the rear hub is 220g and spokes are 60g that leaves 540g for the rim so it possible to have aheavy rim and a light wheel. Very low spoke counts are needed though but that is how all these factory wheelset are constructed. spokes are expensive so less of them are used.

I prefer to have mass at the hub rather than at the rim.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:57 am 
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Weren't the 2010 Zonda the lightest ever? I read a forum that said some of them came in at under 1500g for the set :shock:

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:43 am 
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bm0p700f wrote:
A Shamal has almost no spokes which save alot weight. If the rear hub is 220g and spokes are 60g that leaves 540g for the rim so it possible to have aheavy rim and a light wheel. Very low spoke counts are needed though but that is how all these factory wheelset are constructed. spokes are expensive so less of them are used.

I prefer to have mass at the hub rather than at the rim.


Shamal and Zonda spoke counts are the same.

Shamal hubs will be slightly lighter due to carbon shell and ceramic bearings in some models.

Spokes will be pretty similar weight.

Rims in Shamals will be lighter, and they are a nicer shape (Zondas are more boxy). But I own both and Zondas are better ... though weirdly the braking surface is noticeably inferior, but still fine.

Actual weight difference between the sets is c.100g


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:46 am 
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bm0p700f wrote:
A Shamal has almost no spokes which save alot weight. If the rear hub is 220g and spokes are 60g that leaves 540g for the rim so it possible to have aheavy rim and a light wheel. Very low spoke counts are needed though but that is how all these factory wheelset are constructed. spokes are expensive so less of them are used.

I prefer to have mass at the hub rather than at the rim.


Note that for the heavy rim you get something extremely solid and pretty stiff by clincher standards, so it's a trade-off.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:13 am 
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or you could build a lightish rim with an adequate spoke count and not trade anything off...

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