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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:22 pm 
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Closed-cam skewers like Shimano DA/Campy/Fulcrum are the best all-around skewers for all-weather use. External-cam skewers can be OK (Salsa or Bontrager for example) but if one uses them in wet and mucky weather then it is possible they will become very stiff to operate. Cheaper external-cam skewers are just asking for trouble.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:15 pm 
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What exactly are closed-cam and external-cam? I have inspected skewers and no which ones I don't like, but is the difference in the lever arm or in how that arm snugs against the dropouts?

Sorry for a possibly obvious question, I'd just like to understand this more.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:36 pm 
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http://sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:49 pm 
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Ah, Sheldon. I should have known to check there!

I knew that difference by sight, and which are not as nice, but didn't know exactly the name.

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:30 am 
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These are interesting:
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Internal cam, steel shaft and still only 79 grams claimed weight.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:43 am 
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They are interesting. Don't leave us all guessing. What are they?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:47 am 
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Nothing secret, they just come with the updated MADFIBER wheelsets.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:55 am 
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I ordered some Tune AC14 internal cam skewers from starbikes. Can't wait for it to arrive.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:40 am 
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those tunes are really surprisingly good for a lightweight part - Ive had a pair for 4 years, about 12,000kms and not so much of a hint of failure or slippage. I do grease them every now and then, mind :noidea:


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:11 am 
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Kcnc creaks. I use the "old" Tune.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:43 pm 
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I had Zipp standard skewers on my 2013 404's and purchased the Zipp Ti QR's for that whopping 8g savings (said my scale).

The rear wheel did nothing but continue to loosen after every ride, sometimes during mid ride. I really did not want to over torque a $1500 wheel on a Colnago C59 to save 8grams so I put the original alloy skewers back on and wont be doing that again.

Wheel stays put and the issue never returned. Ti is too soft a material to adequately use for my wheels.

But I do like the ENVE skewers that came on my 6.7's.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:18 pm 
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@Leviathan: how do you oil them?
@carbonLORD: those enve ones looks hot, but they look like external cams instead of internal cams right?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:12 pm 
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Use a tad bit of grease on KCNC skewers and never had a single issue. Not that tough to get them not to creak. Ran them on every road bike I've owned for the past 3 years with 0 issues.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:53 pm 
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I think the world is ready for a skewer test! Jason, could Fairwheel do one?
I would like to see how much clamping pressure the different skewers can provide with a fixed amount of force closing the lever.

I have had the KCNC work ok (no creaking) for me as well. The Tune sure do look nice however.


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I dont oil them, I just remove the threaded end, dip the skewer in the grease tube, wipe off all the excess, little dab at the base of the handle then off you go..Im sure there is a more scientific way but I figure its better than nowt.


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