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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:11 am 
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The HplusSon TB14 is pretty much a copy of the Nemesis, from the anodizing all the way down down to the brass counterweight, and despite the TB designator, it is a clincher rim.

Of course only silver DT Swiss Competition spokes go with the Nemesis rims, as far as I'm concerned, laced 3x, 32 spokes front and back.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:39 am 
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:beerchug: Mackers

Another thought for me! Just get the 9000 c24 for the mountain days, offload my 7900's and build up some old school Chris King 32spokers for day to day.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:50 am 
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Mackers wrote:
Of course only silver DT Swiss Competition spokes go with the Nemesis rims, as far as I'm concerned, laced 3x, 32 spokes front and back.


:thumbup: on silver spokes. I have 32 WS 14/17 spokes, front and rear. 3x front and 3xDS, 2xNDS.

And as for hub color, put me down for silver for those too. 2006 Chorus on my Nemesis, and White Industries on my other wheels.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:44 am 
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Bonus question for the day...

Going with the HplusSon polished TB14 rims... and a titantium bike and seat post with polished graphics, black fork, bb, saddle and headset.... Silver or Black Chris King hubs?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:02 pm 
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Steno wrote:
Bonus question for the day...

Going with the HplusSon polished TB14 rims... and a titantium bike and seat post with polished graphics, black fork, bb, saddle and headset.... Silver or Black Chris King hubs?


I would say definitely go with silver. Black Kings are kinda plain Jane IMO and I think that silver from CK is much more sleek and sexy.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:53 pm 
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Anyone have an opinion on BHS mtb Disc hubs. I have had good luck with a couple of sets of the road hubs.
How do they rate? I did a search but came up empty.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:30 pm 
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Steno wrote:
Bonus question for the day...

Going with the HplusSon polished TB14 rims... and a titantium bike and seat post with polished graphics, black fork, bb, saddle and headset.... Silver or Black Chris King hubs?


Per my response above and echoing Zen -- SILVER! :beerchug:


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:24 pm 
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Hi there,

I got a set of 24/24 novatec hub and i want to know if a set of Kinlin XR-270/24 holes rear and XR-200/24 holes front could be fin for a 160 pounds guy.

Can it be a good idea?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:46 pm 
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@djay-That build should work just fine for ya. I must say, I'm glad your going with an XR270 in the back. An XR200 would be way too soft for your weight in that hole count for a rear wheel. For a front it should be just fine.
Do you know what lacing pattern you were thinking of doing?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:09 pm 
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@djay-That build should work just fine for ya. I must say, I'm glad your going with an XR270 in the back. An XR200 would be way too soft for your weight in that hole count for a rear wheel. For a front it should be just fine.
Do you know what lacing pattern you were thinking of doing?

with 24/24, i think i will do 2X everywhere, maybe radial front, but i don't know if novatec hub can old radial. I think the 2x will be safer.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:20 pm 
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If its the A291 then front radial should be fine. Ithink 2x looks better anyway.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:15 pm 
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Does anyone know what size Veloplugs the H+ Son Archetype takes? I'm building up a couple of sets but I don't have the rims yet.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:21 am 
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Maybe a silly question but the only bad wheel I ever built (lots of broken spoke nipples ) was a velocity rim. I'm getting set to build using a different velocity rim so, whick side do the spokes go, in relation to the holes on the outer diameter of the rim. On the bad wheel I assumed if the spoke hole (out diam) was off set let them the spoke went to the left side flange and vice versa. I couldn't see any visible offset of the holes when looking at the inner diameter of the rim.

Any advice? Escape tubulars if that helps


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:16 pm 
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Completley bust my RR415 wheel today on a ride. Not the wheels fault it was my own stupidity. The rim is completely toast.

It been an expensive day.

I think the the above poster the problem you had was by lacing the the wheel so that you used the "offset" wrongly so you ended up with a bend in the spooke at the nipple. I noticed the first time I built a velocity A23 up. I dismantled and rebuilt the other way and has been well. You have to lace the opposite wasy the offset looks I think. I have not built for a a few months so my memory has gone a bit fuzzy.

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if there is adubt about spoke orientation put nipple with spoke and its show itself in wich way

bm0p700f : post some photos and what was mistake to destroy them?

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