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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:12 pm 
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I like Pro3s. I used to use contis and still use gatorskins for commuting/trainer and occasional road training.

I have Pro4s now so I have high hopes. The Pro3s have never given me any significant puncture problems and they ride consistently and I'm confident on them.

I had an Attack/Force set and didn't like it.

The best tyres I have ever ridden, and still prefer for racing, are Vittoria Corsa CX. But in terms of lifespan and puncture resistance, I've got to give it to Michelin.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:23 pm 
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It wasn't until the GP4000S came out tested well on the Bike Tech Review test -- and after lots of people started talking about them -- that I finally tired one (yep, only one). I decided they were ok enough to use as rear training tyres (jee, how generous of me), then, after using them for a while, I eventually started sometimes using them as rear race tyres. Now I also occasionally use a Four Season or Gator as a rear on my wet day bike.

As others have said, the GP4000S is a very good all-round tyre, without being super-fast.


So which tyre is the fastest?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:38 pm 
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frafoss wrote:
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It wasn't until the GP4000S came out tested well on the Bike Tech Review test -- and after lots of people started talking about them -- that I finally tired one (yep, only one). I decided they were ok enough to use as rear training tyres (jee, how generous of me), then, after using them for a while, I eventually started sometimes using them as rear race tyres. Now I also occasionally use a Four Season or Gator as a rear on my wet day bike.

As others have said, the GP4000S is a very good all-round tyre, without being super-fast.


So which tyre is the fastest?


Vittoria Crono and other similar TT tyres.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:40 am 
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I've got some pro4 endurance tires coming in the mail (in a 25mm) for the winter. Can't wait to try the new profile.

Then will probably go with some vittoria evo's as the season gets under way.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:01 am 
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No experience with the Conti's, but I've run Pro 3's for several years and love 'em. Just stocked up on Pro 4's for next year.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:41 pm 
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frafoss wrote:
So which tyre is the fastest?


In clincher, Veloflex Record, Conti Supersonic, Vittoria Pista... maybe the Ultremo ZLX. All of these are short lived and rather fragile.

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WMW wrote:
frafoss wrote:
So which tyre is the fastest?


In clincher, Veloflex Record, Conti Supersonic, Vittoria Pista... maybe the Ultremo ZLX. All of these are short lived and rather fragile.


So the fastest usable tyre is GP4000S. Some say the new Force/Attack is even faster but I haven't tried. Maybe sombody knows?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:06 am 
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frafoss wrote:
WMW wrote:
frafoss wrote:
So which tyre is the fastest?


In clincher, Veloflex Record, Conti Supersonic, Vittoria Pista... maybe the Ultremo ZLX. All of these are short lived and rather fragile.


So the fastest usable tyre is GP4000S. Some say the new Force/Attack is even faster but I haven't tried. Maybe sombody knows?


i would put the Pro Race 4 service course in that list (useable category), and say it is a quicker tyre than a GP4000s

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:44 am 
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The Pro3 and GP4000s are about equal if you trade off their strengths.

The Pro3 rides a fair bit nicer compared to the GP4000s (which feels kinda 'dead' and 'wooden' if pumped over 105psi for a 23c tyre). The GP4000s is less prone to cuts (though the Pro3 is no where as vulnerable as the Corsa Evo's nor the Veloflex Records or GP Supersonics. )

Their differences are about equal and level of each other. So it will really depend on which is your priority.

Haven't had the chance to try the Pro4 yet so cannot comment on that.


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The Pro3 and GP4000s are about equal if you trade off their strengths.

The Pro3 rides a fair bit nicer compared to the GP4000s (which feels kinda 'dead' and 'wooden' if pumped over 105psi for a 23c tyre). The GP4000s is less prone to cuts (though the Pro3 is no where as vulnerable as the Corsa Evo's nor the Veloflex Records or GP Supersonics. )

Their differences are about equal and level of each other. So it will really depend on which is your priority.

Haven't had the chance to try the Pro4 yet so cannot comment on that.



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:44 pm 
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frafoss wrote:
Some say the new Force/Attack is even faster but I haven't tried.


The Attack/Force are faster because they have thinner tread.

The high tpi tires from Vittoria, Challenge, and Veloflex have lower resistance but are pretty fragile and have thin tread. They ride nice, though. For some people they are durable enough.

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I've got some pro4 endurance tires coming in the mail (in a 25mm) for the winter. Can't wait to try the new profile.

Then will probably go with some vittoria evo's as the season gets under way.


Been on these since the fall weather came in here in New England. About 600 miles and no issues. At about 75-80 psi they ride GREAT! FWIW was riding Pro Race 3 and have a set of Ultremo's 23mm that I was going to use when the warmer weather arrives, but may get some new Ultremo's in 25mm instead. A little more weight but ride quality and handling are much improved.


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How much do you weigh 53by11? Just so i have a reference of where to start when I play with the pressures (i'm ~185lb).


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:12 am 
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Try this if you want to calculate your tire pressure properly instead of guessing.

http://www.biketinker.com/tire-pressure-calculator/

You'll have to download the Excel file, the Google doc doesn't seem to work.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:40 pm 
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russianbear wrote:
How much do you weigh 53by11? Just so i have a reference of where to start when I play with the pressures (i'm ~185lb).


195#


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