What make were your black ebay hubs? Do the spoke heads fit into a countersink on the hub? If so, and the elbow is not supported, the elbow may fatigue and break after some miles. I have a wheel (on a BHS UL66 front) that's doing that. I'm going to build its replacement 1x heads in to compensate.

I like the wider spacing of the BHS hubs vs Rotaz more than I dislike the DS flange spacing. The Rotaz is pretty narrow over all, and my experience with equally narrow AC hubs is they make a laterally flexy wheel. That's not good for reliability for me. Someone else who doesn't stand on climbs so much might be ok with the narrow flange hub.

The BHS 218 hub has slightly better DS flange spacing and a little less on the NDS than the 211.

Djay I'd recommend 28/32 for your friend. Most women I know don't like to deal with broken spokes on the road and doing a field re-truing of the wheel. The C472 rim looks good, I'm building a set.

I'm also planning a build for a an other friend.

I want to hear feedback from you to see what could be the best build for her.

She is at 240 pounds, i can say that she is a powerfull girl.
She do about 2000miles a years, for most, this is some club ride of about 20-40 miles.
She want something durable, and confortable.
She was on shimano RS-20 for the last 2000 Miles she did and the wheel are just going in really bad condition now.

I'm checking to get her a good wheelset on a little budget, so for now i'm sticking with BHS part.

I thought to build her a BHS C472w rim with the new BHS SL 218 rear hub, over the SL211 for the bigger bearing and beter flange spacing and for the front i'm thinking of SLF85W, big bearing and large flange spacing too.

Now, for the spoke, can a 24/28 spoke be ok? Sapim Race everywhere?
Or maybe can i go with 28/32, laser with race DS?

Hi everyone,
Thinking about a future build, want to go for a bombproof wheelset dura ace 7900 hubs, dtswiss 585 rims rear 32x3 front 28x2.
My question is about the spokes: will a regular dura ace hubs work with sapim cx ray spokes? Or will only round spokes go through? I checked the shimano tech docs and they say something about aero spokes only 28 and 24 holes hubs.

Thanks for your time.

The Cxray shouldn't be a problem. That isn't a truly bladed spoke, at least when compared to ones like Mavic and what not.
They should go through the spoke holes just fine. Are you going to build with brass or alloy nips?

That spoke count for weight on DT 585 would be exessively strong and stiff unless you are particularly hard on wheels. You should be able to use a 24 front and 28 rear without out problems.

However all the extra spokes do is a add a bit of weight. Alloy nipples should work but brass will be potentially more relaible. If salt is put down in winter than alloy nipples are not the most sensible choice.