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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:25 pm 
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Anyone tried the new Lightweight Meilenstein Tubular wheels?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:15 pm 
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They're just the original LW III's with a new name. I have the standard ones and they are fast, light, very stiff, etc.

I'm told the lighter versions, with fancy ceramic bearings are not really that much better, only really in the range to satisfy certain markets. The people who make them prefer not to ride ceramic apparently!!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:46 am 
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No they are not the same. The rim height went from 50mm to 47.5mm and i think the brake track is new as well.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:04 am 
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Apologies !! It just that I was speaking to the UK importer a while ago and the impression I had was that they were identical. How is the brake surface different? My LW III's have just been back to the factory for a refurb and the new brake surface looks the same as it was before.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:06 am 
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keith wrote:
They're just the original LW III's with a new name.


And really ugly branding/stickers...bring back the classic look!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:36 am 
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in this post the differences are summarised...

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=100549&start=90#p909815

the obermayer didn't change, only the meilenstein

there's another thread somewhere that explains why ceramic bearings are not used in some lw wheels, from memory it was due to the cf hub construction not allowing the necessary toloerances for the bearings


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:57 am 
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I have a set on order through Sigma Sport (UK). I heard through the importer the MY2013 version will be available in December. A whole month to wait unless Sigma can somehow get them earlier.

I just wondered if they had started appearing in mainland Europe yet and someone had tried/tested them.

I love the new look. The wheels are undoubtably good but I was put off buying the standard III due to the rather antiquated look. I suppose it's horses for courses.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:10 am 
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sungod wrote:
in this post the differences are summarised...

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=100549&start=90#p909815 onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;"


Thanks for the link, very useful!! It's still not super clear whether there is a clearance problem with the LW III's and 11 speed - they seem to say it's only a real problem with the sprint wheels! I wish they would respond to emails...

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:59 am 
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And really ugly branding/stickers...bring back the classic look!


+1 :beerchug:

The manufacturers just don't get it.
Everything is going bigger and bigger.
I already had complained elsewhere about the new Sram graphics and even Campagnolo is fading away from the classic looks.
I did expect from marketing departments that they would realize why black or shadow or beyond black are chosen by so many cyclists.
And why on earth has ZIPP gone beyond black when they still need twelve BIG stickers on a wheel set to tell other people what I am riding?
These are not visible when riding anyway.
And when traffic stops isn't one sticker on each side not enough to let other people know about the wheel brand?
And why do we have to peel off all these stickers to get to a stealth look but away from the original factory style?

And now even Lightweight went from decent classic look to Zipp,Reynolds,Easton like "here are your new wheels" action.

If you think you have a superior product then let the component tell the story.A single placed name on it will do.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:31 am 
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My feelings too. If I do have to buy new wheels to be able to fit the 11 speed I'm hoping I can order a pair with no logos or with black lettering.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:51 am 
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Meilenstein's use stickers for logo's - easily removeable...

I feel they look ordinary too...i'd rather have them plain, people who know lightweights will still know what they are 8)


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:16 am 
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Stickers? that sounds interesting - is that the big black 'Meilenstein' lettering or the white 'Lightweight' logo?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:30 pm 
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fwiw i got some obermayers a few months ago, and opted for the black lettering

the lettering was painted on, but is hard to spot unless the light is at just the right (/wrong) angle

the little magnet symbols were still in white though, as far as i can tell they're not removable


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:00 pm 
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Nah - I cant see them being stickers but i could be wrong?

I was told that you had a choice and could still get them with the 'classic' logos. I received a replacement rear Meilenstein and I explained that i wanted it to match my front so it came with the classic 8 x logos (4 each side) and I could tell the brake track was different to the old (these are clinchers though).

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:12 pm 
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sungod wrote:
fwiw i got some obermayers a few months ago, and opted for the black lettering


Sounds very nice - any chance of a photo or closeup of the black logo?

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