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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:21 pm 
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1989: 41' 50" Laurent Fignon

Fignon was 182cm tall, probably 68kg racing weight?
That would mean 391/80*68= 332 Watts for the final climb. That's not too much...


1995: 39' 30" Bjarne Riis
About the same height and weight, right?
460/80*68 = 391 Watts?

Soo, 60 Watts difference makes for a 2:20 difference on Alpe?

Would be nice to know the weights better, also bikes were heavier in 89, I imagine.


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Kjetil wrote:
That is a pretty bike!


I want to know what size that bike is.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:07 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:47 pm 
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To quote Rob Warner: How does he walk with balls that big?!


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:08 am 
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Actually Kittinger and Andreyev had big balls, yes.
They did their jump 50 years ago, nobody went any higher before them, and supporting technology was a bit weaker, wasn't it.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:42 am 
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I would have to say that the rider I now have my biggest doubts about is Boardman. His "athletes hour" record is so ludicrously further than anyone else.


The 'superman' position played a HUGE role in this ride.

I tried it at the time and it took over 4 seconds off my 4000m IP times, or close to an 2% improvement with no optimisation or adaptation phase (went back and forward to test for consistency).

Considering he spent a lot of time training in it, and used a more extreme version (flatter) than I was riding I see no problems with him going just over 1% further than Rominger.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:19 am 
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Wilier, did you mean "Slovakia" ?
Sagan probably relaxes at home.
Or is that not him with his snoot in the suds?
Funny photo nonetheless. Thanks for sharing.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:52 am 
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:noidea: Found the photo here; it says CZ: https://twitter.com/manuelquinziato/status/256885642997403649/photo/1

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:37 pm 
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Cyco wrote:
gg333 wrote:
I would have to say that the rider I now have my biggest doubts about is Boardman. His "athletes hour" record is so ludicrously further than anyone else.


The 'superman' position played a HUGE role in this ride.

I tried it at the time and it took over 4 seconds off my 4000m IP times, or close to an 2% improvement with no optimisation or adaptation phase (went back and forward to test for consistency).

Considering he spent a lot of time training in it, and used a more extreme version (flatter) than I was riding I see no problems with him going just over 1% further than Rominger.


Not in the "athletes hour" it didn't as the rules meant he had to do the record on a traditional steel bike with no aero bars.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:46 pm 
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Not in the "athletes hour" it didn't as the rules meant he had to do the record on a traditional steel bike with no aero bars.

Yeah, but you know, Boardman was special, he could do all that at the height of the EPO era against all those doped riders without touching the stuff :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:56 pm 
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^ exactly my point


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Boardman was so specifically trained, he drilled threshold training and was a impressive athlete, yet beyond the TT and track he never really found alot of success. Which leads me to believe that he was clean. He also was in direct competition with another athlete that we know to be clean, Graeme Obree.

Unless he started doping before his first big wins as a junior that is.

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Yeah if Boardman was doping he was not doing it well, possible tour winner if he had. IMO of course.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:32 pm 
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So is anyone following the new cyclocross season at the moment? If so check out my friend Alex Zander "Moustache" Revell! He's the only male New Zealand CX rider on the European UCI circuit. He's giving it his best shot. I'm sure some of you would have seen him at the first Superprestige and the recent Ronse Trofee race just been.

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Here's his most recent blog entry for Spoke Magazine too http://spokemagazine.com/2012/10/16/rolling-meadows-struggling-minnows/

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