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GT56
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by GT56 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:01 pm
Franklin wrote:I'd say Tom Boonen fits the heroic attacking champion mold quite nicely.
Indeed, and of course one Fabian Cancellara, funnily both in the type of races that Moser F. excelled in too. OK these three are big and heavy, which in general is a dying breed in cycling, so that supports the thesis of the broadened and deepened top class of riders.
Wouldn't like to see yet even more of those silly steep climbs built in the routes of the other type of races, just to make them more selective. All that it does, is increase predictability. Maybe races should be made longer again.......
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Tinea Pedis
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by Tinea Pedis on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:05 pm
Hold on to your hats everyone...
JTL joins Sky.
Oh and going by Hennie Kuiper's formula I would be allowed to be 85kgs! I could not think of many races that would allow me to be competitive in...
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stella-azzurra
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by stella-azzurra on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:46 pm
MattSoutherden wrote:
Errr, there is a Moser out there.
F. Moser said:
“You have to wait a couple of years before saying whether he (Francesco's nephew, Moreno Moser) will become a great rider,” Moser said. “But I am happy to see another Moser among the protagonists of the peloton.”
I never took drugs to improve my performance at any time. I will be willing to stick my finger into a polygraph test if anyone with big media pull wants to take issue. If you buy a signed poster now it will not be tarnished later. --Graeme Obree
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KWalker
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by KWalker on Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:02 pm
86kg here we come. Maybe if I took all the shit the pros do and gained that weight I could TT at 600 watts and that's how I'd get over mountains.
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Kjetil
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by Kjetil on Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:04 pm
The funniest bit of that F. Moser rant was the notion that the tour Wiggins won was tailor made for him. How about that Giro Moser won then, huh?
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by ultyguy on Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:40 pm
Yeah, obviously the formula is a bit skewed as you get taller, but at the same time it's unreal that he did so well at 72 kgs. I mean the guy was World Champion, Olympic Champion, 2nd at the Tour.
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Antoine
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by Antoine on Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:43 pm
Tinea Pedis wrote:Hold on to your hats everyone...
JTL joins Sky.
I don't understand, Sky has already too many gc contenders , others teams like Greenedge or Omega Pharma don't.
Sky should rather hire some riders for the classics, with Flecha leaving there is only Boasson Haegen left.
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by aerozy on Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:28 pm
^ Sky is just improving on their winning formula of having a great team of GC riders going at threshold up the mountains. Its scary to think of how good next years tour team could be.
Bradley Wiggins
Edvald Boasson Hagen
Mark Cavendish out <> in Sergio Henao
Bernhard Eisel out <> in Rigoberto Uran
Chris Froome
Christian Knees <> JTL
Richie Porte
Michael Rogers
Kanstantsin Siutsou
And you still got those two american kids
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by CarpetFibre on Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:01 pm
ultyguy wrote:Yeah, obviously the formula is a bit skewed as you get taller, but at the same time it's unreal that he did so well at 72 kgs. I mean the guy was World Champion, Olympic Champion, 2nd at the Tour.
I would be seriously porky if I were 66kg! I've got a bit of a spare tyre as it is at 58kg.
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artray
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by artray on Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:38 pm
aerozy wrote:^ Sky is just improving on their winning formula of having a great team of GC riders going at threshold up the mountains. Its scary to think of how good next years tour team could be.
Bradley Wiggins
Edvald Boasson Hagen
Mark Cavendish out <> in Sergio Henao
Bernhard Eisel out <> in Rigoberto Uran
Chris Froome
Christian Knees <> JTL
Richie Porte
Michael Rogers
Kanstantsin Siutsou
And you still got those two american kids
I think it is going to be scary when they come up against some fully fit and present climbers and get there ass kicked all over France ,Spain and Italy .
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by nickmcg1971 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:46 pm
do you mean those climbers who returning from drug bans
..... I think Sky want to do well in the classics , hence the JTL signing.... also i think Thomas will have a massive year in 2013 now the Olympics are out of the way
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Franklin
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by Franklin on Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:33 pm
ultyguy wrote:Yeah, obviously the formula is a bit skewed as you get taller, but at the same time it's unreal that he did so well at 72 kgs. I mean the guy was World Champion, Olympic Champion, 2nd at the Tour.
Keep in mind they raced a lot more, which means they had to keep reserves all year.
Imagine AC and Wiggo at Paris Roubaix, not just riding along, but being competitive!
It's why in my opinion Fignon is the last true champion
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artray
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by artray on Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:28 pm
younickmcg1971 " do you mean those climbers who returning from drug bans "
Yes
Thats right , Contador and co. Contador was awesome in Spain and he did have not have Dr Leinders working for him or eat any funny meat. I dont know , the hypocrisy of it all