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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:44 pm 
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jmilliron wrote:
Diaphragmatic breathing and unflattering jerseys.


Or he's really Barbapappa... also pink :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:11 pm 
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Armstrong was not riding it then.


It was Floyds year :oops: . They may as well have let them ride the way things turned out
Just realised I was at the tour that year. I saw a couple of stages. I was at the stage where it looked like Landis blew it . When we left France he was down and out. We did not get back home till late the following day. I watched the highlights and could not believe what Landis had done.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:10 am 
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stella-azzurra wrote:
Same issue here. My rib cage is larger than normal. Usually found in mesomorphs

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Somatotypes are huge pile of crap. About as reliable as phrenology.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:37 am 
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Hey, don't knock Phrenology. It was a ridiculously great album.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:20 am 
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stella-azzurra wrote:
Armstrong was not riding it then.


It was Floyds year :oops: . They may as well have let them ride the way things turned out
Just realised I was at the tour that year. I saw a couple of stages. I was at the stage where it looked like Landis blew it . When we left France he was down and out. We did not get back home till late the following day. I watched the highlights and could not believe what Landis had done.


Kinda like leaving the stadium right before your team pulls off a miracle win. :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:22 am 
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stella-azzurra wrote:
Same issue here. My rib cage is larger than normal. Usually found in mesomorphs

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Somatotypes are huge pile of crap. About as reliable as phrenology.


Which one of these dudes are you? or you can draw one.

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Moser: Nibali is only a good rider, not a champion

“He made a couple of little attacks and then he stopped… Not much for the strongest to be worried about,” Moser said of Nibali’s showing in July. “Nibali is only a good rider, not a champion. You need a lot more to merit that title. He tries and he tries, but he’s always lacking something.”

“Lucky for him. In my time, riders were stronger and earned less. People are getting excited about very little because they have very little to get excited about,”

“Unfortunately, we have too many so-so riders and no element of leadership, so our rivals dominate and win,” Moser said. “I don’t feel I can criticise [Italian coach] Paolo Bettini, because the material at his disposition was scarce. Unfortunately, there are no Mosers or Bettinis out there anymore.”

“You have to wait a couple of years before saying whether he (Francesco's nephew, Moreno Moser) will become a great rider,” Moser said. “But I am happy to see another Moser among the protagonists of the peloton.”



All the ex-pros say at one time or another that during their time the riders were stronger. Today's pros are all wimps!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:00 am 
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majklnajt wrote:
I wonder if all of those favourites were using the weight/height formula... 0,36-0,38 kg/cm


I was chatting with the great Hennie Kuiper this summer and we were talking about the ridiculous levels of skinniness these days. He said that in his day the general calculation was

(height in cm) - 100 = body weight in kgs

For example, he was 172cm and 72 kgs and I think we can obviously say he was pretty competitive in his day.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:55 am 
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stella-azzurra wrote:
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Moser: Nibali is only a good rider, not a champion

All the ex-pros say at one time or another that during their time the riders were stronger. Today's pros are all wimps!


This bit made me chuckle:

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Unfortunately, there are no Mosers or Bettinis out there anymore.


Errr, there is a Moser out there.

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Moser basically said bring back the dope. (Riders will be strong enough for him then, I guess)
Yes, Nibali only won a Vuelta so far. But he is not finished yet.


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or fortunately there are no F.Moser or Bettini anymore ...


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MattSoutherden wrote:
stella-azzurra wrote:
Oh boy

Moser: Nibali is only a good rider, not a champion

All the ex-pros say at one time or another that during their time the riders were stronger. Today's pros are all wimps!


This bit made me chuckle:

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Unfortunately, there are no Mosers or Bettinis out there anymore.


Errr, there is a Moser out there.



Moser Francesco meant to say there is no rider like him, the champion, the rider displaying heroic rides, pulling and pushing through when attacking.

The point is, that the number of riders on the highest level these days is far greater than in his days. In his days the pro peloton was mainly made up of riders from the 'old' world without Eastern europe, with the occasional Brit, American, Irishman, and Aussie

So in his days it was maybe 5 in Moser's class, and if on one particular day one of those 5 had a super day, he was able to distance the others

These days you've got 20 or 25 top class riders and if then 5 have their super day, it gets far more difficult to set up something 'heroic'


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