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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:29 pm 
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Update: Velodrome Shop in the UK seems to carry the Bonts for wide feet. I'm thinking of ordering a pair. Anyone familiar with Velodrome Shop? Good? Bad?

I'm considering either the Bont Vaypors or the Sidi Genius 6.6 Megas.

I remeasured my feet tonight, with my cycling socks on and after a 5km run too so maybe they were a little swollen. I got 289mm for the length and 117 for the width. Bont's size wizard says I need a 46.5 Wide.

I currently have an old pair of Shimano SH-R151 road shoes, size 46; and a pair of Sidi Dominator 5 mountain bike shoes in a 46 Mega size. Both fit really well. I'm wondering if the Bonts are similar to the Sidis in that they are narrow.


In my comparison between Bont, Giro, Specialized and Northwave the Bont seem to run true to length but are larger in the toe/metatarsal area. I wear a 42.5 in all of these except for the Northwave in which the 42.5 is actually too long. With both the Spec and the Giro my wider foot *right foot* felt like I was always riding on the edge of it and I would get numb toes no matter what I did. So far with the Bont that doesn't seem to the be the case which I'm attributing largely to the wider toe area.

to summarize, Bont seem to be roughly the same length per given size as other major manufacturer's *Giro, Spec* but wider in the toe, with the actual sole/last being wider as opposed to just more material on top.

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:05 am 
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My Bont A1 arrived!
I am impressed with the brutal stiffness! I can not squeeze them to know where are my toes. I have not tested it on the bike, but apparently tasted and were good. I used the Size Wizard and gave the same number of my Sidis (Ergo 1 and Energy). I'll test them tomorrow, I hope I like it!

The only problem I'm having is that I can not tighten a bolt of Cleat of the left shoe. The piece that receives the screw rotates along with this, like a infinity screw-thread. :noidea:
I tried to hold the piece inside and tighten the screw but he escapes. I left anyway, hope the cleat does not move tomorrow.

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:14 pm 
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tell BONT you need the T-nuts with the teeth on them, because the ones in your shoes all broke loose and are rotating. They will send you the new nuts.


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:03 pm 
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I can agree with danbjpa, I just received my Bont Vaypors and they are extremely stiff and incredibly supportive, and once you do the heat molding they are really comfortable. I had to do the molding a couple of times to get the heel cup nice and snug on my foot but it is such a great feeling to slide on your shoe and have it hug your foot, highly recommend. My scale is broken right now so I couldn't get a weight on them, but they feel slightly lighter than my Mavic Zxelliums. And I got the custom neon yellow color and it matches my bike perfectly!


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:15 pm 
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Thanks 2011!! I have not thought about it, was going to leave anyway, but since there is such a possibility, it costs nothing to send an email to Bont. But I confess that I have no idea how to change that. I can not even unscrew to remove the cleat.

Today I did the first test, 117 km! During the first km I felt a discomfort in the heel but my frenzy made ​​me endure to the end. When I got home, I was looking at the damage:
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I hope this does not turn a 'calcanhar de maracuja'. :evil:

Despite this problem, the shoes are awesome! Very stiff and moves really well the power to the pedals, especially when pedaling standing. I had no problem with ventilation, even riding in the hot sun here in Brazil. The tightening of the buckle is efficient, fixing the foot down and back, but the velcro does no effect, the shoes are so hard that velcro can not close as it should, I can lift the toes (is it anyway?) , therefore i suspect that the shoes are a bit big for me and so I think that the heat molding does not solve (or am I mistaken?). I'm used to the Sidis (tighter in front) and so I'm lost on whether is great.

The molding in the oven can be done with cleats? With this problem of 'screw thread infinite' i can not remove it.

The part of the heel left me disappointed. I want to use Bont in the long rides. Tomorrow I will test with thick socks, if continues to hurt me, I will try to mold them and, if not solve, maybe I buy a smaller size ... or abandon.

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:12 am 
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Had the Bont's dig into the back of my foot/heels too until I remembered to drop my saddle a bit due to the super low stack height. I think what was happening with me was that I was "Toe-Down" pedaling a bit to make up for the seat too high and as a result digging the shoe into my heel. Once I lowered my saddle a bit the discomfort I initially had went away almost immediately.

Worth a shot at least :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:41 am 
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Oh, no! My bike has integrated seatpost. Cut would be heresy. hahaha
But it probably can be, saddle up.

I'll try something alternative, like making a graft more padded at the heel or whatever.

Thnxx!


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:40 pm 
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danbjpa wrote:
I'll try something alternative, like making a graft more padded at the heel or whatever.


Yes, use thick socks and some tissue paper/card in the heel to push the area out. No need to bake the entire shoe - just use a heat gun or hairdryer to soften the heel area.

I had the same rubbing issue as you but the above solved it.


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:50 pm 
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Thanks Guy! I'll try this idea. Today not cycled since my heels dawned inflamed and burning.

Another doubt. I noticed that I'm having problem with Bont to 'toe overlap', the cleats are all forward. With my Sidis no had this problem, even my frame being an XS.
This can be considered 'normal', since the shoes are the most spacious in the front and have rubber protective in tip? With you it occurs, or is a great indication of the shoes are big?
By this fact and by can lift the toes on the front of the shoes is that I think the shoes are a bit big for me. I am thinking seriously about buying a 38. :?


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:51 am 
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Got some Bont sub 8's coming in the mail, hope their online sizing guide is accurate :?


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:32 am 
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I also got a case of toe overlap going from Sidi to Bont. It rears its head doing track stands and slowly entering / exiting my garage with exaggerated steering inputs. I'm certainly not happy, but have gotten used to it and it rarely causes anything more than mild irritation.

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:37 am 
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danbjpa wrote:
The molding in the oven can be done with cleats? With this problem of 'screw thread infinite' i can not remove it.


I was told by my Bont dealer that the cleats should be removed. The pressure point caused by standing on the cleat during heat molding could probably damage the sole.

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The part of the heel left me disappointed. I want to use Bont in the long rides. Tomorrow I will test with thick socks, if continues to hurt me, I will try to mold them and, if not solve, maybe I buy a smaller size ... or abandon.


I had this same problem with blisters when I first started using my Bonts. After the initial irritation, I took some time off from the Bonts to let the blisters heal. Once healed, I had some callousing that preventing further irritation. I would suggest letting your blisters heal for a while before you irritate them again.


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:15 am 
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New shoes are here, sorry for huge picture, clicky:

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:57 am 
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Ordered two pairs of Vaypor XC, can´t wait and haven´t even tested them but ordered anyway to test them out.

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:50 pm 
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Those are some nasty blisters. I haven't had that happen and my Vaypors have been amazing. I did have to adjust my saddle lower after checking everything before riding. The fit is way better than my old shoes and I am very happy now.


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