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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:01 am 
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I'm looking to purchase a new carbon framed bike and torn between the matte black and clear finish coat. With proper care, does the matte finish stand up well over time and as easy to touch up chips and scratches? Matte finish is suppose to be lighter weight and that appeals to my WW side but clear coat finishes have been easy from my experience. Please advise.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:22 am 
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I have a BoB Dogma 2. What a pain in the arse. I personally prefer gloss because I can get automotive clearcoat and also buff scratches out of a gloss finish. Look of the matte may be cooler, but it shows everything.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:31 am 
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I have a Cannondale Supersix and concur that the matte finish is a pain, whereas my Parlee with the gloss ends up being the wet weather bike due to the ease of cleaning it..
The matte is lighter and is very 'now'..


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:49 am 
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+1.

Matte S-works with another stone chip (Monday) on the Top tube of all places! Still haven't found an easy way to disguise them, PITA.

Next frame will be gloss finish as I imagine a small colour match and a dab of clear nail polish, gone.

Any tips for chips on Matte frame appreciated.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:15 am 
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I have a custom painted parlee tt with a semi matte finish that seems to be the best compromise if you really want the matte look- its reasonably easy to clean and durable enough. Based on experience of stock matte clearcoat i would go for gloss i think!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:24 am 
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I also had a black matte mtb frame. I would not recommend it...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:02 pm 
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Why not go nude carbon? It is so easy to look after and no scratch concerns just a bit of aero 303 to protect it from the UVA and it looks awesome . Good luck with your choice :beerchug:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:07 pm 
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I had an anodized black mtb. After 14 years, it still looked good, which lead me to believe that matte finishes held up better.

But, I recently (within the past month) got a 2013 Argon 18 Gallium Pro,which is a semi matte black frame. I can already tell that it is going to be a PIA to keep clean. Smudges are almost as noticeable as they are on my white bike.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:48 pm 
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BTW: this topic is in regards to a Parlee Z5sl. The stock matte finish paint scheme is not to my liking due to the general comments mentioned. Researching if, if this frame can be clear coated over carbon versus a black paint job over carbon. The Z4's main tubes are clear coated and it looks great with the carbon weave showing in the light.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:16 pm 
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Lots of assumptions being made...

When this is really down to finish quality rather than gloss level.


The stock sl matte paint is a good quality finish.

I have several matte finishes and they clean up and maintain very well. I have good gloss finishes that clean easily too, but have seen crap finishes that crack and chip and peel with no wear at all.


It's not the gloss, it's the quality that determines the net result and satisfaction.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:45 pm 
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CharlesM wrote:
Lots of assumptions being made...

When this is really down to finish quality rather than gloss level.


The stock sl matte paint is a good quality finish.

I have several matte finishes and they clean up and maintain very well. I have good gloss finishes that clean easily too, but have seen crap finishes that crack and chip and peel with no wear at all.


It's not the gloss, it's the quality that determines the net result and satisfaction.


Thanks Charles, I know you know first hand based off of your experience with Parlee's.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:04 pm 
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CharlesM wrote:
When this is really down to finish quality rather than gloss level.


Hi

Im not so sure - I've had a number of gloss finish bikes from high to mediocre quality in terms of finish and durability, but they've all been easier to clean than the matte coat on my tarmac which is of high quality in terms of a flawless finish and durability in terms of no noticable markings after 18 months.

I could clean a gloss frame with wet wipes and furniture/motor polish if I had to, and it would look great, whereas dirt and grease seems to stick much more to the matte finish and require greater effort to get it back to spotless

jon

Edit: Just noted that the OP was talking specifically about chips and scratches, rather than cleaning, and to that I agree with Charles M its about the quality of the finish!


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I'll second what charles said... with a caveat.

My two pennies is that the big difference is that the matte finish just looks dirtier faster. In terms of ease of cleaning, my z5sl is a breeze and I mostly do it with wipes. The wee bit of a bummer is that I'm doing it all this time! Every ride and if there are a few days of sitting in the studio next to the window. Damn, my white SUSI looked cleaner after a typical ride than the parlee.

But again, it's no more difficult to clean than any other - you just notice the dirt and dust more.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:14 pm 
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Matti and cookie you're both correct, but its still about the quality rather than the actual gloss.

If the finish isn't applied right and creates too rough a surface and or if the wrong product is applied, both can last well, but will pick up and hold dirt more than even a poorly applied gloss... The same goes for fixing a good matte finish versus a bad one. Getting the sheen to match an incorrectly applied matte is hard, but matching a correctly applied one isn't...


Maybe the better way to put this is that matte finishes are harder to execute well, versus harder to keep clean or protected or less durable...

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