Whats your favorite bike wheel skewer?
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The frame is resting upon the hub's axle, not the skewer. You can actually ride a bike without skewers. It won't be safe, but it's entirely possible.
The skewer just secures the hub to the frame, that's it. But if the skewer is too tight/powerful in its clamping force it will in affect compress against the axle/bearings and hinder their movement.
Why would you want a skewer that applies too much force?
The skewer just secures the hub to the frame, that's it. But if the skewer is too tight/powerful in its clamping force it will in affect compress against the axle/bearings and hinder their movement.
Why would you want a skewer that applies too much force?
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I agree. They don't need to be clamped super tightly. Over tightening doesn't achieve anything good.
They have to be structurally sound though. I've been using the cheapo Ti offerings and I'm a little nervous about them. I'll keep using them but I check them regularly.
They have to be structurally sound though. I've been using the cheapo Ti offerings and I'm a little nervous about them. I'll keep using them but I check them regularly.
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New style Zipp ti. They are relatively light but quite solid in feel and clamp force.
I am done with pure WW skewers. Not worth the hassle and risks involved- esp. on front. I ride dirt too.
I had a bad experience with Carbon-ti skewers. One day, I drove to the mountains to do a big ride and the front skewer broke when putting front wheel on. It was a huge waste of time for me and I didn't get to ride that day as a result.
I am done with pure WW skewers. Not worth the hassle and risks involved- esp. on front. I ride dirt too.
I had a bad experience with Carbon-ti skewers. One day, I drove to the mountains to do a big ride and the front skewer broke when putting front wheel on. It was a huge waste of time for me and I didn't get to ride that day as a result.
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Better than failing when hitting a pothole at 50 mph*.coloclimber wrote:I had a bad experience with Carbon-ti skewers. One day, I drove to the mountains to do a big ride and the front skewer broke when putting front wheel on. It was a huge waste of time for me and I didn't get to ride that day as a result.
* Note: this is hypothetical. I have never had a QR fail while riding.
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IMO there's more to it than just that alone.
A good skewer effectively couples the wheel to the frame so that not only it is well secured but moreover it also serves as a crossing point for vibrations (road buzz etc.) to be sunk into the frame's mass and subsequently dissipated as heat.
While the absolute weight of the skewer is of little relevance to achieve this, design details such as choice of materials, clamping area and of course clamping force are relevant to this.
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The skewer just secures the hub to the frame, that's it.
IMO there's more to it than just that alone.
A good skewer effectively couples the wheel to the frame so that not only it is well secured but moreover it also serves as a crossing point for vibrations (road buzz etc.) to be sunk into the frame's mass and subsequently dissipated as heat.
While the absolute weight of the skewer is of little relevance to achieve this, design details such as choice of materials, clamping area and of course clamping force are relevant to this.
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DT Swiss RWS ratcheting skewers. First used this on one of my MTB disc rims to make getting the disc centered in the caliper more reliable when removing front wheel for transport (it works for this). I have them on my road bike as well but they are more bling than function for me on the road, they are quite secure and of reasonable weight. My second choice would be Dura Ace or XTR which were in use prior to switching to the DT.
fdegrove wrote:A good skewer effectively couples the wheel to the frame so that not only it is well secured but moreover it also serves as a crossing point for vibrations (road buzz etc.) to be sunk into the frame's mass and subsequently dissipated as heat.
While the absolute weight of the skewer is of little relevance to achieve this, design details such as choice of materials, clamping area and of course clamping force are relevant to this.
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This is an interesting point, and I think valid, however looking at some of the skewer pics posted by others in this thread, I don't see much difference between clamping areas. This is dictated by the side of the fork dropouts, which is pretty standard, and skewer ends are thus fairly standard so that people don't whinge that their expensive new skewers don't fit their forks.
Given that Titanium has pretty good tendencies to absorb and dampen down vibrations, would a Ti skewer be better than a steel one then?
Forks are fairly stiff laterally. The amount of play (pulling the blades apart) is pretty minimal, and requires a lot of force. If it didn't the fork wouldn't be worth a cracker round a corner. ~2-3000N of force to stop the fork blades pulling apart laterally ought to be plenty. Also, figure that the skewer stops the wheel falling downwards and out of the eyelets if the wheel is lifted off the ground momentarily. Anyone running >200kg front wheels? Of course this can be complicated off-road, for example if something hits the wheel from the top. But in road scenarios (this is a road thread), I doubt that's ever an issue except in a crash, then who cares.
For vibrations to transmit from the skewer to the fork blade, I doubt there would have to be much force involved. Lets halve those Newtons, so, say 1000N on each side. That's 100kg of weight. That's a lot of weight or force over a very small area. That's right, high pressure! Think that road buzz won't be transmitted to the fork blade? Hell yes! Whats a standard skewer end diameter, I dunno, lets say 1cm^2 (didn't ride my bike to work today...naughty boy...so can't measure it). That means that 1000N is pressing on 1cm^2. Or, in tyre pressure terms, ~1450psi.
Which is plenty of pressure to transmit road buzz!
if you look at the clamping area of a KCNC skewer and compare it with a campy one, the campy one is larger with a bigger contact area with the dropouts. The aluminium use is also much firmer and wider. The KCNC looks very cheap and yes it is much lighter too
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I tried to use kcnc on my master x-light and I just couldn't. The wheels were slipping no matter what. They worked fine on any carbon frame I had.