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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:52 am 
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Have HED wheel set with skewers which I'm using with new to me Reynold's MV32 tubular wheel set. LBS is recommending Dura Ace skewers which I'm told are stronger and stiffer and will give noticeably better ride but seem to heavier. About $150 too. What are your favorite skewers for ride quality and weight savings?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:12 am 
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Serious question: do QR's have any bearing (no pun intended) on ride quality?!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:12 am 
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Skewers being stiffer and effecting ride quality? BS.

A skewer is but an means to anchor your wheel to your frame. Its a solid connection. It does not "flex" in a way that would cause energy loss unless your wheel slipping in the dropouts. Tighten it. You now have a high performance skewer.

Quick Release skewer qualities can be separated to 3 categories:
-structure (durabilty/strength)
-design (ease of use/mechanical advantage)
-vanity (weight/good looks)

I have 2 favorite sets-
eBay KCNC clones- cheap, super light, work OK, not the most comfortable to tighten, not the strongest clampers- but they work
Campagnolo Record 9 Speed- solid, drop dead gorgeous, very comfortable to use.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:23 am 
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OP needs a better LBS.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:40 am 
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these: http://www.tune.de/tune-produkte/dc1617/
Add some small ti springs to them and they are perfect.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:41 am 
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Tune dc14s

I agree that skewers have zero effect on the ride quality...
They hold the wheels on.. Not much else

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:54 am 
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They hold the wheels but some of them to that a whole lot better than others. I am personally done with all the lightweight skewers. Campy skewers are on all my bikes. Yes they are heavier (120g vs 40g) but they give a much more solid connection and stay in place. Dura Ace are also excellent.

One of my front KCNC skewer opened after a long descent. No thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:04 am 
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+1. KCNC are fine, but you need to do up the rear one really tight to avoid the wheel pulling out / squeaking. Then it's wise to lubricate the bushing so that you can open it again.

Dura Ace may be heavier but they are aesthetically and functionally better. They require less force for a given tightness, fit your hand nicely and require no maintenance. Similarly the older Campag skewers. I don't like the look of the new double sided campag levers, but functionally I'm sure they're fine.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:32 am 
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I love the look of the Tune DC 14, however it kind of hurts my hand when clamping down. Another +1 for the KCNCs though. They are pretty light and they have a decent clamp force.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:36 am 
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I have a pair of ti KCNCs and they have been faultless. Never opened or loosened, quiet.

I have picked up a pair of extralite streeters for my new build as they are 29g (on my scale) with a Ti axle rather than aluminium.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:40 am 
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Something that was published a while back. As you can see the KCNC skewers clamping force is very low.


Aerozine: 46,5g; 2500N; keine Freigabebeschränkung, Hebelverschraubung zu schwach dimensioniert
Carbon-Ti X-Lock: 38,9g; 2400N; XC und Marathon
Atik: AT1623; 46,1g; 4100N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Funworks S-Light: 40,8g; 1700N; XC und Marathon, hakelig
Bikaavenue BA-LQR01: 53,7g; 3700N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Mavic M40 141 MTB: 111,7g; 7500N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Hope QR SKEWER: 119,7g; 4900N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
KCNC SKEWER MTB TI: 45,4g; 2800N; XC und Marathon
Crank Brothers Split: 124,1g; 8100N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Pitwalk Force Flow MTB Ti: 43,8g; 2800N; XC und Marathon
Leichtkraft Keil: 73,6g: 5800N; XC und Marathon
pop-products Titan: 41,8g: 1400N; XC und Marathon, hakelig
DT Swiss RWS Stahl: 99,2g: 7700N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
DT Swiss RWS Titan: 82,9g: 7700N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Mounty Lite-Axles: 69,6g: 8800N; nicht für DH, 5mm-Inbus
NC-17 CC Chromo: 120,6g: 6800N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Salsa Flip-Offs Titan: 83,7g; 6300N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Shimano XT: 123,7g; 7800N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Shimano XTR: 118,8g; 8000N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Tune DC 16+17: 36,6g; 3100N; keine Freigabebeschränkung, sehr schmale Hebel
USE Spinstix Stahl: 77,8g; 6800N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
USE Spinstix Titan: 57,6g; 6700N; keine Freigabebeschränkung


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:18 am 
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Hi,

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They hold the wheels but some of them to that a whole lot better than others.


+1

While I love my M2Racer skewers I do feel the difference between them and say standard Campa QRs. The latter give a much secure feel to the bike.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:27 am 
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My favorite: Dr. Control or Mr. Control :noidea:both names are used..


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:55 pm 
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LionelB wrote:
Something that was published a while back. As you can see the KCNC skewers clamping force is very low.


Aerozine: 46,5g; 2500N; keine Freigabebeschränkung, Hebelverschraubung zu schwach dimensioniert
Carbon-Ti X-Lock: 38,9g; 2400N; XC und Marathon
Atik: AT1623; 46,1g; 4100N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Funworks S-Light: 40,8g; 1700N; XC und Marathon, hakelig
Bikaavenue BA-LQR01: 53,7g; 3700N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Mavic M40 141 MTB: 111,7g; 7500N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Hope QR SKEWER: 119,7g; 4900N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
KCNC SKEWER MTB TI: 45,4g; 2800N; XC und Marathon
Crank Brothers Split: 124,1g; 8100N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Pitwalk Force Flow MTB Ti: 43,8g; 2800N; XC und Marathon
Leichtkraft Keil: 73,6g: 5800N; XC und Marathon
pop-products Titan: 41,8g: 1400N; XC und Marathon, hakelig
DT Swiss RWS Stahl: 99,2g: 7700N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
DT Swiss RWS Titan: 82,9g: 7700N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Mounty Lite-Axles: 69,6g: 8800N; nicht für DH, 5mm-Inbus
NC-17 CC Chromo: 120,6g: 6800N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Salsa Flip-Offs Titan: 83,7g; 6300N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Shimano XT: 123,7g; 7800N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Shimano XTR: 118,8g; 8000N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
Tune DC 16+17: 36,6g; 3100N; keine Freigabebeschränkung, sehr schmale Hebel
USE Spinstix Stahl: 77,8g; 6800N; keine Freigabebeschränkung
USE Spinstix Titan: 57,6g; 6700N; keine Freigabebeschränkung



I understand that some skewers can generate a peak force higher than others but do you need to generate 8000N of force to keep your wheel in oif those numbers are correct.
If someone asked you whether they could laterally load your hub with 800kg of weight you would tell them to get bent. I would be surprised if the bearings are turning over smoothly at that force, let alone the hubshell staying straight.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:18 pm 
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A pair of DA's. I like the feeling in my head, that no matter what, they will keep the wheels in place. And then I like the looks of them.

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