New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

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Ryan94

Post subject: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:17 pm

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http://www.winwithgiant.com

Giant breaks down test data and compares a lot of the top frames available.

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Wookieopolis

Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes.

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:48 pm

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Does the weight for their TCR Advanced SL (ISP) include the ISP topper? I'm assuming it does not, which makes the addition of a 250g seatpost into other companies frame weights a bit suspect. Those ISP toppers are often heavier than an inexpensive, lightweight seatpost. Anyone here with a Giant with a weight for the ISP topper?

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fa63

Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:00 am

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That was my first reaction to the weight comparison as well. Plus I would say a well made carbon seatpost is more like 200g (or even less), not 250g.

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quaman26

Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:35 am

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Even a quality aluminum seatpost like the Thomson Masterpiece is only 200g.

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spud

Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:49 am

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amusing that they talk about being left out of testing, yet they've done the same thing - they did not list the Felt F1, only the AR1 (which won't win any stiffness/weight contest)

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Tinea Pedis

Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:57 am

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Take 50g off the 250 they added though and only the Evo beats it.

However there is, as mentioned, the cappy that is not included.

Keen to know where the rest of the weight for bikes like the Scott comes from? Lighter frame and fork yet still a high total weight :noidea:

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Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:30 am

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No Scott Foil or Venge? Mmmkay.

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prendrefeu

Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:35 am

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What a farse.

That's 2 for 2 just for today! That "article" on PEZ for the "Broken Bones" was an interesting little circus of lies, but this is a bit too untrustworthy compared to other marketing departments of major brands.

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craciunptr

Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:37 am

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there are seatpost with integrated saddle which weigh less than 200

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smike

Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:32 am

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250g seems pretty heavy for a seatpost. A more reasonable weight for a seatpost on a high end frame is 150-170.

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Ryan94

Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:45 am

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craciunptr: I think the test is aimed at more everyday riders not the weightweenie crowd.

That being said I think 200g would have been a better number for the average seat post. That is on par with the FSA K-force lite. That post is similar to what would be spec on 3000 - 6000 dollar bikes

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Tinea Pedis

Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:56 am

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prend, seems the article has been pulled?

I can't seem to find it...

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Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:00 am

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The TCR sl non ISP is 200gms heavier than the EVO. Apples to apples. Nice weight on the TCR alloy though.

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spartan

Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:17 am

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giant propaganda is too late.

roadbike.de tested all the new frames.

http://www.roadbike.de/test/bikes/im-roadbike-test-neun-top-rennraeder-aus-carbon.615636.9.htm

frame weights

http://www.roadbike.de/test/bikes/im-roadbike-test-neun-top-rennraeder-aus-carbon.615636.9.htm?skip=3

most frames use 27.2 seatpost. a relative cheap bontrager xxx seatpost 250mm weight a scant 140gm.

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Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:47 am

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Tinea Pedis wrote:

prend, seems the article has been pulled?

I can't seem to find it...

It was, see this thread.

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