New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant)

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Ryan94	Post subject: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:17 pm
Joined: Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:36 pm Posts: 68	http://www.winwithgiant.com Giant breaks down test data and compares a lot of the top frames available.
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Weenie	Post subject: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:17 pm
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Wookieopolis	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes. Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:48 pm
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:28 am Posts: 112 Location: Berkeley, CA	Does the weight for their TCR Advanced SL (ISP) include the ISP topper? I'm assuming it does not, which makes the addition of a 250g seatpost into other companies frame weights a bit suspect. Those ISP toppers are often heavier than an inexpensive, lightweight seatpost. Anyone here with a Giant with a weight for the ISP topper?
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fa63	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes. Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:00 am
Joined: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:26 am Posts: 1698 Location: Atlanta, GA, US	That was my first reaction to the weight comparison as well. Plus I would say a well made carbon seatpost is more like 200g (or even less), not 250g. _________________ My Bikes My Photoblog
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quaman26	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes. Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:35 am
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:44 pm Posts: 59	Even a quality aluminum seatpost like the Thomson Masterpiece is only 200g.
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spud	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:49 am
Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:52 am Posts: 218	amusing that they talk about being left out of testing, yet they've done the same thing - they did not list the Felt F1, only the AR1 (which won't win any stiffness/weight contest)
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Tinea Pedis	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:57 am
Moderator Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:08 am Posts: 7275 Location: Geeeelong!	Take 50g off the 250 they added though and only the Evo beats it. However there is, as mentioned, the cappy that is not included. Keen to know where the rest of the weight for bikes like the Scott comes from? Lighter frame and fork yet still a high total weight _________________ Baum Ristretto, Baum Mondrian Corretto & the '89 Merckx! | "If you could eat it in one sitting, hold your line." | twitter.com/Tinea_Pedis
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Zigmeister	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:30 am
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:09 pm Posts: 614	No Scott Foil or Venge? Mmmkay.
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prendrefeu	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:35 am
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:32 pm Posts: 7445 Location: Los Angeles	What a farse. That's 2 for 2 just for today! That "article" on PEZ for the "Broken Bones" was an interesting little circus of lies, but this is a bit too untrustworthy compared to other marketing departments of major brands. _________________ Exp001
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craciunptr	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:37 am
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:32 pm Posts: 23	there are seatpost with integrated saddle which weigh less than 200
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smike	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:32 am
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 am Posts: 7	250g seems pretty heavy for a seatpost. A more reasonable weight for a seatpost on a high end frame is 150-170.
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Ryan94	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:45 am
Joined: Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:36 pm Posts: 68	craciunptr: I think the test is aimed at more everyday riders not the weightweenie crowd. That being said I think 200g would have been a better number for the average seat post. That is on par with the FSA K-force lite. That post is similar to what would be spec on 3000 - 6000 dollar bikes
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Tinea Pedis	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:56 am
Moderator Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:08 am Posts: 7275 Location: Geeeelong!	prend, seems the article has been pulled? I can't seem to find it... _________________ Baum Ristretto, Baum Mondrian Corretto & the '89 Merckx! | "If you could eat it in one sitting, hold your line." | twitter.com/Tinea_Pedis
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lechat	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:00 am
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:32 pm Posts: 238 Location: S.E. TN	The TCR sl non ISP is 200gms heavier than the EVO. Apples to apples. Nice weight on the TCR alloy though.
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spartan	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:17 am
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:52 am Posts: 613	giant propaganda is too late. roadbike.de tested all the new frames. http://www.roadbike.de/test/bikes/im-roadbike-test-neun-top-rennraeder-aus-carbon.615636.9.htm frame weights http://www.roadbike.de/test/bikes/im-roadbike-test-neun-top-rennraeder-aus-carbon.615636.9.htm?skip=3 most frames use 27.2 seatpost. a relative cheap bontrager xxx seatpost 250mm weight a scant 140gm. _________________ Current Rides: 2013 Trek 6.5 PO 9070 di2
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prendrefeu	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:47 am
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:32 pm Posts: 7445 Location: Los Angeles	Tinea Pedis wrote: prend, seems the article has been pulled? I can't seem to find it... It was, see this thread. _________________ Exp001
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Weenie	Post subject: Re: New frame testing data comparing top bikes (by Giant) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:47 am
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