Hi reggiebaseball. Thanks for the reply and info. A few days ago I noticed your nice Moots in the "Show me your ti bikes" thread so I know you have some experience in this area.
Have you already selected your builder for the Ti frame?
Most likely Firefly.
I think a 110m stem is a bit short for a frame that large, are you sure you dont want to design it around a 120 or 130 instead?
That was a typo. I am planning to use a 120mm stem but I will also consult with the builder.
The Enve fork and the THM you inquire about are different.
Enve has an axle to crown of 367 and rakes of 40,43, and 45
THM has an axle to crown of 372 and rake of 44.
Your bike can be designed for one or the other, but probably not both. You could use a 5mm lower headset riser to accomodate the Enve if it was designed for the THM for example.
Nice catch and I was already aware of the rake issue but hadn't considered the A-to-C difference. I would expect that a custom builder could accomodate for either?
BTW the fact that you would even consider thousand dollar plus THM carbon upgrades that only save 50-100 grams, but ignore the fact that your 1400gram clinchers are total weight pigs... well that is priceless. Not only can you readily shave 400-500 grams with proper light tubulars, you could be rewarded with an appreciably superior riding experience. You could also probably swing a 300 gram savings with some bling clinchers like Lightweights.
I know that good tubulars would save a lot of weight but I don't want to deal with glueing tires and having to carry a spare tire when I go riding. I had a bad experience with custom wheels but never considered the Lightweight clinchers. The braking performance is still a question mark for me.
Try to remember that 80% of the time the guy raving about his wheels here weighs 65 kilos or runs a garage based business selling wheels to people on forums. You are a big boy, so take that with a grain of salt when a flyweight tells you something is stiff or durable.
Wise words and I couldn't agree more.
If you care deeply about every single gram, you dont want a titanium bike. You should go with carbon. Or a carbon-Ti hybrid.
I have a light carbon road bike so this one is for sure going to be Ti. Kinda' like wanting the fastest Porsche vs wanting the fastest car...I know this won't be the lightest bike but it can still be a light Ti bike!
If you care deeply about riding a Ti bike, than stop sweating THM bits and get the important stuff sorted first (like wheels bubba).
If I can get strong, stiff, light and durable (I didn't say cheap) clinchers that are ~300g ligher than what I have then I am all ears!
Your initial build list with SR is nice! Don;t get pulled astray with the THM and spend the extra thousands-- save it for wheels or a nice cycling vacation with the missus.
Gotcha'. So is your final answer on the THM M3 cranks and Scapula fork a no