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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:54 pm 
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Anyone have any experience with this tire? Pros/Cons?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:07 pm 
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Good tire but maybe not the best in wet. Riding Challenge Criterium Seta Extra now. Good priced if you can't afford A. Dugast or FMB but want the soft comfortfeeling. Can ride higher pressure in my Challenge tires with same comfort as with 1bar lower on my Continental Competition tubes.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:12 pm 
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Challenge is my prefered tubular brand but only use the Forte in 24mm now. It depend on where you ride really. On perfect dry tarmac the Crit may be a little faster.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:20 pm 
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Hi,

The only con I can think about is their lack of image and I think their logo could be a bit classier as well. Other than that I rank them in the same league as Vittoria's EVO CX just below the big three: Veloflex, FMB and Dugast.

Plus side is that you can often find them at very reasonable prices.... :thumbup:

Ciao, ;)

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:44 pm 
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My two most cost effective choices are the following-
CHALLENGE ROAD CRITERIUM 700x22 TUBULAR NERONE 320 tpi - all black - $50 USD
SCHWALBE TUBULAR ULTREMO HT 700x22 300 tpi - $72 USD
While it would be nice to ride either the Veloflex, FMB or Dugast, it's not within my means to spend $100 - $150 per tire. That equates to as much as $1000 a year just for bike tires. Which tire would you ride of these two? From what I've read, it seems the Ultremo has pathetic tread life.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:15 pm 
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ricorob wrote:
From what I've read, it seems the Ultremo has pathetic tread life.


and puncture protection(look at how many flats RSNT/Leopard got in the spring classics :shock: the last few years)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:29 pm 
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Hey Ricorob...

where are you getting the challenges for $50? I need some new tires and actually really like these (particularly for the cost), but I can't find them that cheap anymore and now if I'm going to spend 80 bucks a tire, I'll go back to veloflex.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:26 pm 
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http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/pp/road-t ... ulars/tuba

Best place I have found.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:28 pm 
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It's the slippiest tires I have ever tried... With a distance. :shock: Other than that, nice ride, but I punctured 4 in 4 races. Needless to say, I don't use them anymore...


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:43 am 
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@mattiTworoads - I've got a connection to get them for $50.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:30 am 
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Not bad, I've ridden both and prefer my Evo's more, but not by much.


NEITHER are good in the wet though :(


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:36 am 
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It's the slippiest tires I have ever tried... With a distance. :shock: Other than that, nice ride, but I punctured 4 in 4 races. Needless to say, I don't use them anymore...


I can only say the same. They cost me 2 crashes a couple of seasons ago. Both because they slipped in a corner and in dry condition! I have never crashed before and never after because of a slippery tires in a corner on any other tires in the 15 seasons I have raced. They are dangerous!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:01 am 
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I bought a pair of these and thought i'd give them a go. Went back to Conti sprinters when i got a puncture and found i wasn't as happy on corners. Didn't really notice any difference between them and the sprinters in terms of rolling resistance.
Recently moved onto Veloflex Record and without a doubt they are in a different league from the contis and the criteriums.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:06 am 
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Hi,

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Recently moved onto Veloflex Record and without a doubt they are in a different league from the contis and the criteriums.


Sure but don't expect too much in terms of mileage and puncture resistance though.
After all it is a tubular designed for TT and not much else.

Ciao, ;)

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:19 pm 
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I have found that the Challenge tubulars ride very nicely...above what you might expect for their cost...and they are generally pretty straight and free of lumps...BUT, I have never been able to get to the point where I have significantly worn the tire before the basetape begins to loosen and seperate. The problem is worse if the tires have seen some rain, but they don't have to get wet at all for the problem to start. If channe fixed the problem, they would definitely be the $5 cigar for $2...


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