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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:05 pm 
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This is all really helpful... Just trying to decide what exactly I want in a bike. I have a Parlee Z5 SL that I love, but I just have the itch to buy another bike! It's hard for me to tell if the parlee z5 sl is stiff enough or if it is just the lightweight standard IIIs I run on them. I guess I would prefer something a bit more snappy.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:31 pm 
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define snappy...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:05 am 
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It's not you, it's me.
It's not your bike, it's you.
You want more snappy, go to your parents and trade in your genes for "snappier" ones.


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 Post subject: Parlee Z1 vs Colnago C59
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:25 am 
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By snappy I mean more responsive. Hey I just want to buy another bike, I don't really believe that it is going to make me faster. Why do people buy sports cars? Because they race? Same thing.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:57 am 
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You already have a Parlee. Get the Colnago.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:12 am 
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Just ask for a bit stiffer chain stays and down tube... You'll have it.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:25 am 
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c50jim wrote:
With the Colnago, you get Colnago handling - perhaps a little slow feeling at slow speed, very stable and predictable at high speed and handles bumps well. Ride any Colnago (I've owned 13 so far - dumb I know but what's an old retired guy to do but ride his bike and buy more in winter when it's too crummy outside to ride?) and they all handle about the same for the same size. Ride quality may differ with my Master and C40s somewhat smoother than my EPS or Extreme Power. Personally, I love C40s and keep buying them any time I see one my size on eBay or elsewhere so I'll have enough to last me til I quit riding.

As for stiffness and compliancy, I haven't ridden a C59. However, I'd rate both my Parlees a little less stiff and more compliant than my EPS, my most recent Colnago. Then again, tell Parlee what you want and they'll build it.

Have you compared the geometries of your bikes? In particular dimensions such as chainstay length, front centre length, bottom bracket height and fork trail?


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 Post subject: Parlee Z1 vs Colnago C59
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:10 am 
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Depends on what you want. I'm starting a custom z1 project right now. I've owned Colnago's in the past and they are probably my favorite all time brand. However, it fun to change things up and try something new. I'm riding Cervelo's now and really love the way they ride and feel. You could always make a Z1 with the Colnago geometry, and have a "Colnago Z1". Also, it's pretty cool to have unlimited painting options.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:39 pm 
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decisions, decisions ... does anyone know if there is really that much difference between z5 sl and z1?


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 Post subject: Parlee Z1 vs Colnago C59
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:59 pm 
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All the difference in the world. Custom versus stock. The reason you buy a z1 IMO is to get a custom fit.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:10 pm 
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The stock small with tall headtube Z5 sl fits me like a glove. can slam the stem with no spacers. Any difference in handling/ feel?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:27 pm 
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Ufgators wrote:
Any difference in handling

There's 2 pages now on what differences in handling you're able to get....

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 Post subject: Parlee Z1 vs Colnago C59
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:10 am 
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FYI tenedia. There is nothing comparing the handling of the z5 sl to z1


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:24 am 
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The Z1 can handle however you want it to. That's what custom means. The Z5 is pretty good, but really it depends on your body structure and what you personally prefer. No one can definitively say one is better than the other, especially since every Z1 is pretty much unique


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:38 am 
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I sell both and have road both. They are BOTH the best bikes I have ever road. The handling and ride characteristics are similar but the Colnago you will feel a bit more confident descending. If you want the absolute best in craftsmanship, tune ability, and materials go for the Parlee. If you want something a bit more flash go Colnago. Regardless you can not choose wrong.
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