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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:59 am 
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the vwd version has much, much better fit+finish, much fewer waves on the seat tube/seat stay area, and is much, much lighter. ive never seen an s5team weigh 1050g, or anything under 1200g really. s5vwd in a 54 squeezed under a kilo. not insignificant.


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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:26 am 
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^

While it's true that the VWD frames I've seen are generally finished way better- it brings up another problem with me. Cervelo has done a piss poor job with quality control on the base/Team S5 models from what I've seen. I've seen numerous ones with rough/lumpy areas where the seat stays joins the seat tube, waviness throughout and misaligned stripes where the graphics join on the down tube/top tube.

That's unacceptable IMO for a $3,000/$3,800 frame.

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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:43 am 
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Agree. I inspected mine before I would take it out of the shop.


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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:44 pm 
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I am getting the frame as a crash replacement (35% discount off retail) so the difference in cost becomes $1,365.


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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:39 pm 
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A friend of mine bought the Team, which is much heavier than advertised. I'll bet he wishes he bought the VWD...


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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:40 pm 
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^ this, buy the VWD


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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:44 pm 
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justkeepedaling wrote:
^ this, buy the VWD


What does ^ this, mean?


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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:11 pm 
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Its an arrow


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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:51 am 
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"Logic left here a long time ago."

I agree with this statement 100%.

Go for the most expensive,too much bike/bikeframe for you. You go to weight weenies forum...you will get a weight weeny reply.

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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:13 am 
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If money's no object - then get the VWD. You'll sleep better at night if that's what you really want at heart. That's 200 or so grams you'll never get back.

It seems though that the only two members of this board who have VWD frames had problems with the rear brake mount stripping or breaking, and it appears to be a bad design. Strange that the problem has only been reported on VWD frames, but not Team/base frames.

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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:56 am 
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ive had base model s5 with rear brake mount problems. a couple were just loose rivet nuts. one was a bit more than that. i personally havent had any vwd problems at all. i guess im lucky (or we did and nobody informed me)


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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:38 am 
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every bike is going to have its floors... maybe there are more VWD models in this forum than the team?

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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:46 pm 
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I don't know your frame size...But you can save money over them all with Scott Addict RC (about 790 grams), for 1700-1800$. Of course, older model.


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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:50 pm 
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What the hell, that's a totally different type of bike...


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 Post subject: Re: S5 Team or VWD
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:03 pm 
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Aren't both racing machines? :noidea: Though S5 have a TT look. :)


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