Full ultegra group on ribble is a hair under $800.

Full carbon chorus 11sp is ~$1100 skip on the brakes and you're in budget.

Full sram force is $840.

Force is lighter than Ultegra.
This is Weight Weenies.

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It hasn't got anything to do with being a Sram fan or not. When you ask for opinions on a gruppo + pedals for $1000 people tend to come up with ideas based on value, and the value is in the shifters more than anything else. It's sad to say but $1000 just doesn't get you to high up the latter with groupsets nowadays(not that the entry level stuff is bad in anyway), but if your creative you could get a lot more value for your money than simply buying a new ultegra, or Force group.

Off the top of my head I can't see how you could get into even a used Chorus group all in with fresh chain/cables, and a reasonably newish casette + pedals + make your rear wheel compatible for $1000. Would be cool to see if someone can. OP what kind of wheels do you already have?

I'd definitely do a used Red/Force mash up. Sram offers great performance and weight for the $$

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20 gram 1x10 chain guide

Wow, amazing post, answered many if not all of my questions and then some!! Thank you!
All of my wheelsets have Shimano/Sram compatible hubs.

Personally I can't stand SRAM's double tap shifters but that a personal prefernce. I like Shimano soley for the wheel choice and shifting slickness but still (and do) only use Campagnolo. My choice for your budget would Centaur carbon. The three reasons why I like Campag are;
1) the shifters are pleasure to use, a paddle for the upshift, a lever button for the downshift and brake lever that is only that, all positioned in a ideal way.
2) left shifter is not fully indexed like SRAM or shimano allowing you to trim the FD position to avoid all chain rub even when cross chaining, which I don't do anyway so kind of pointless but I like it none the less.
3) Campagnolo kit is so much more pretty- persopnal preference though.

From a weight wennies point of view I think Centaur carbon might be like than 105 as well. For pedals Shimano makle the best for the price so I would use those.

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I'd try grabbin a used 10 or 11sp Campy Chorus gruppo/Speedplay X2 pedals.

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SRAM Red levers allow for trim.
Can be found used on the cheap, perfect working order.
And they're lighter.

SRAM Red levers also have both adjustable reach.

I understand that you personally, as stated, do not like the feel of double-tap, which is fine. To each their own. That being said, at least know the features of each drivetrain for a proper opinion.

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I should have not typed SRAM that was a non-deliberate mistake. I changed the sentence around abit and left an error in. I am aware that with SRAM you can trim the FD. Although given the error pendrefu I think pointing out the error (wqhich is fine) and then adding what you did is a bit too much. You made assumptions about the error which may not be true.

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You are correct, I wrote too much.

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allow me to re-iterate, Campy is out of the question, I have only Shimano/Sram compatible hubs.

And speedplays....NEVER again. not for me. no matter how much I tried to dial them in I could never ride them without knee pain. SPD-SL work for me and I'll be sticking with them.


thanks everyone for your input. Thru pure naivete I had no idea how affordable Sram Red from 1-2 seasons ago has become!
So far I think I'll be going w/ (although it's likely to change a couple dozen more times lol)
Force brifters and crankset
Red RD & FD
Rival BB and Brakes
Ultegra Cassette
KMC chain

what do people think of the microshift arsis stuff? That sounds like an option too, but I can't find that much info about it.

EDIT: Looks like a boat anchor when compared to SRAM

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Apparently my bikes were talking the other day & are undecided whether to upgrade the current rider or get a new one...

one of the schemers...

SRAM Rival...

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i was able to get the new sram red group off eBay for about 1.2k by buying the pieces one at a time. There gonna go on a caad10!

Switch to a force FD unless you can finds steel cage one