I feel a lot of jealousy in this thread. We could go on and on about how even paying anything more than for a road frame is ridiculous considering how returns diminish significantly per dollar once you're in the thousands. If the market can bear it, and shops are selling these, then there's no reason not to.
If we talk about value- then I don't buy your argument JKP, considering what independent frame manufacturers can churn out for less than half the R5ca's price. There's something to be said about the branding on the frame though and that's where value comes from in a lot of luxury goods. But let's just leave the discussion at that, because I for one, support people paying up for the R&D which will inevitably trickle down for customers like me.
But anyways, debadging the wheels and getting rid of the red hoods was a great idea. Again, if I ponied up for a frame like this, I'd go all the way for some more sexy carbon parts from the German brands.
Thanks for the response. Liked the look of the wheels as well without the decals. Are waiting for some new 170g brakes that shaves 100g + of the bike and some new skewers that will take another 70g of it.
To response to all that is unsure how good this bike is. I also have an R5 with the same setup ( rolf élan wheels ). The R5ca are a lot stiffer and more confident. At +30mph speeds the normal R5 gets a bit unsteady compared to the r5ca. You feel you can really blast down the mountains, not sure if I have trusted a 670g frame to do the same thing
The R5 is still one of the best bikes I have had, but the r5ca is just in another league. The frame feels like a 1200g frame when it comes to stiffness and confidents.
The price is also a bit wrong in the tread. The bike except the wheels is less than $10000.