New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g

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by spytech

indeed. i wonder how the puncture protection is with these, compared to a gp4000s.

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If you're already running sealant, would it matter?

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i would not deal with the mess. so i would not be running sealant, and sealant is not needed to work - so i would not already be running sealant. it is the reason i ask about puncture protection with these tires. i cant remember in the last 3 years when i got a flat on gp4000s, if these are as good then it would be a plus.

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by getting dropped

Can't wait to get a set...Atom Galactik - interesting name. The article also claims that it is outperforming their protour tubular, I hope that means lower crr.

Also looking forward to trying the 28c Intensive - seems like a good choice for our tandem. I don't want to think about punctures on the tandem...

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spytech wrote:
i would not deal with the mess. so i would not be running sealant, and sealant is not needed to work - so i would not already be running sealant. it is the reason i ask about puncture protection with these tires. i cant remember in the last 3 years when i got a flat on gp4000s, if these are as good then it would be a plus.


I thought you had to run the sealant otherwise you can't inflate the tire? Otherwise, there are too many gaps when there's 0 air in the tire.

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Hutchinson’s Galactik is full tubeless, so it doesn’t require sealant, which is the tire i am commenting about. tubeless ready requires you to use a sealant.

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russianbear wrote:I thought you had to run the sealant otherwise you can't inflate the tire? Otherwise, there are too many gaps when there's 0 air in the tire.


Really depends on the rim and tire. A clean tubeless Shimano rim with a new tire in my experience works fine without sealant. A converted rim, less so. If your tires are older, and/or have been pulled off the rim to patch, it's a bit of a pain to get them to seat properly without sealant.
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spytech wrote:i would not deal with the mess. so i would not be running sealant, and sealant is not needed to work - so i would not already be running sealant. it is the reason i ask about puncture protection with these tires. i cant remember in the last 3 years when i got a flat on gp4000s, if these are as good then it would be a plus.


I'd be very pleasantly surprised if they could manage to do better than the GP4000s while being much lighter, and better rolling. I was thinking with sealant they'd be in the range of a lightweight/race set of tires/tubes, and less prone to deflation.

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i just hope they didnt get it down to 245g by making it 18mm wide. it sometimes seems they think if they label a tire 23c, then it is, even when its not.

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by kulivontot

What's the point of running tubeless without sealant? Just for ride quality? I'd be super sketched about rolling the tire in a corner and burping the air instantly. I realize there's already a thread debating this.

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good point, you got me thinking on that. i guess ill stick to clinchers. but i am considering tubulars.

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by leosantos

i know it's the same weight in the end but I could try not running with sealant on my next setup and instead carry a vittoria pit stop or similar if Im going for a longer ride.. just because if Im going to a road I know is in super good condition, or a short workout close to home, i might prefer the hollow feel and "rim" weight savings

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by petromyzon

Very doubtful that a pitstop can would be able to seat a tubeless tire (would love to be proved wrong if someone has done it). I've never managed to seat a tire with CO2 that I couldn't seat with a floor pump......

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by CTracer

If it's the same width as the current Atom, it will be well under 23mm, which is too narrow. Otherwise, I have had pretty good luck with the Atoms as fas as durability and the ride is nice. I just prefer a wider tire (at least a true 23 mm).

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