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pholcus	Post subject: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:15 pm
Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:15 pm Posts: 46	http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... res-34317/ Seems like good news
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Weenie	Post subject: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:15 pm
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spytech	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:04 pm
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:34 pm Posts: 1648 Location: New York City	indeed. i wonder how the puncture protection is with these, compared to a gp4000s.
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aaric	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:46 pm
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:10 pm Posts: 253	If you're already running sealant, would it matter?
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spytech	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:56 pm
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:34 pm Posts: 1648 Location: New York City	i would not deal with the mess. so i would not be running sealant, and sealant is not needed to work - so i would not already be running sealant. it is the reason i ask about puncture protection with these tires. i cant remember in the last 3 years when i got a flat on gp4000s, if these are as good then it would be a plus.
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getting dropped	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:28 pm
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:18 am Posts: 66	Can't wait to get a set...Atom Galactik - interesting name. The article also claims that it is outperforming their protour tubular, I hope that means lower crr. Also looking forward to trying the 28c Intensive - seems like a good choice for our tandem. I don't want to think about punctures on the tandem...
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russianbear	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:20 pm
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:40 am Posts: 330	spytech wrote: i would not deal with the mess. so i would not be running sealant, and sealant is not needed to work - so i would not already be running sealant. it is the reason i ask about puncture protection with these tires. i cant remember in the last 3 years when i got a flat on gp4000s, if these are as good then it would be a plus. I thought you had to run the sealant otherwise you can't inflate the tire? Otherwise, there are too many gaps when there's 0 air in the tire.
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spytech	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:34 pm
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:34 pm Posts: 1648 Location: New York City	Hutchinson’s Galactik is full tubeless, so it doesn’t require sealant, which is the tire i am commenting about. tubeless ready requires you to use a sealant.
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aaric	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:46 pm
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:10 pm Posts: 253	russianbear wrote: I thought you had to run the sealant otherwise you can't inflate the tire? Otherwise, there are too many gaps when there's 0 air in the tire. Really depends on the rim and tire. A clean tubeless Shimano rim with a new tire in my experience works fine without sealant. A converted rim, less so. If your tires are older, and/or have been pulled off the rim to patch, it's a bit of a pain to get them to seat properly without sealant. Last edited by aaric on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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aaric	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:52 pm
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:10 pm Posts: 253	spytech wrote: i would not deal with the mess. so i would not be running sealant, and sealant is not needed to work - so i would not already be running sealant. it is the reason i ask about puncture protection with these tires. i cant remember in the last 3 years when i got a flat on gp4000s, if these are as good then it would be a plus. I'd be very pleasantly surprised if they could manage to do better than the GP4000s while being much lighter, and better rolling. I was thinking with sealant they'd be in the range of a lightweight/race set of tires/tubes, and less prone to deflation.
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thisisatest	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:48 am
Shop Owner Joined: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:02 am Posts: 1955 Location: NoVA/DC	i just hope they didnt get it down to 245g by making it 18mm wide. it sometimes seems they think if they label a tire 23c, then it is, even when its not.
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kulivontot	Post subject: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:07 am
Joined: Sun May 16, 2010 7:28 pm Posts: 583	What's the point of running tubeless without sealant? Just for ride quality? I'd be super sketched about rolling the tire in a corner and burping the air instantly. I realize there's already a thread debating this.
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spytech	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:47 am
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:34 pm Posts: 1648 Location: New York City	good point, you got me thinking on that. i guess ill stick to clinchers. but i am considering tubulars.
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leosantos	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:02 am
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:41 pm Posts: 115	i know it's the same weight in the end but I could try not running with sealant on my next setup and instead carry a vittoria pit stop or similar if Im going for a longer ride.. just because if Im going to a road I know is in super good condition, or a short workout close to home, i might prefer the hollow feel and "rim" weight savings
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petromyzon	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:45 pm
Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:14 pm Posts: 172	Very doubtful that a pitstop can would be able to seat a tubeless tire (would love to be proved wrong if someone has done it). I've never managed to seat a tire with CO2 that I couldn't seat with a floor pump......
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Weenie	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:45 pm
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CTracer	Post subject: Re: New 2013 Hutchinson tubeless,245 g Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:33 pm
Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:07 pm Posts: 15	If it's the same width as the current Atom, it will be well under 23mm, which is too narrow. Otherwise, I have had pretty good luck with the Atoms as fas as durability and the ride is nice. I just prefer a wider tire (at least a true 23 mm).
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