Bianchi Oltre VS. Specialized Venge

[lokoli]

I'm going to buy a new racing frameset and I'm choosing between these two aero frames.
I want to know which frame is better.

[Imaking20]

Meatloaf

[mjduct]

cervelo....

[kgt]

Bianchi

[Kayrehn]

Bianchi Oltre is aero?

[TurboKoo]

At least it looks stunning.

[sleepingmenace]

+1 for the Bianchi

[prendrefeu]

I want to know which frame is better.

Better for what?

Better for aero?
Better for posing?
Better for bling?
Better for mockery?
Better for your wallet?
Better for the ladies?
Better for rough roads?
Better for climbing?
Better for photography?
Better for dry humping?
Better for resale?
Better for mechanics?
Better for customizing?

[n1klass]

Bianchi for the looks.

[kgt]

And performance.

[brycerider]

Buy the one that matches your shoes. Seriously ask a sensible question dude.

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[Imaking20]

I want to know which frame is better.

Better for what?

Better for aero?
Better for posing?
Better for bling?
Better for mockery?
Better for your wallet?
Better for the ladies?
Better for rough roads?
Better for climbing?
Better for photography?
Better for dry humping?
Better for resale?
Better for mechanics?
Better for customizing?

Yes. See my previous answer

[ticou]

And for it's Nano tech.

[Zakalwe]

The Venge will make you as fast as the world champion because that's what he rode before swapping it for a Dogma2 but looking at your body type I think the geometry of the 54cm Oltre would better suit you.

[Geoff]

As the FNG, you're going to get that here.

I haven't ridden the Oltre, but have friends that ride it. They seem to like it just fine. As for the Venge, for some reason it gets a lot of heat (I suspect from people who don't have a whole lot of hours on it).

My experience to date on the Venge has been excellent. It is almost as stiff as any other bike I have had. With respect to aero, it feels fast, but other than getting some track time, I don't think you will get anything more than anecdotal stories. I am the first to admit that the bikes in my collection are not necessarily indicative of the performance of the stock bike, but in is case, I believe that the bike I am on has a layup schedule identical to the stock bike (ok, it's the McLaren, but at least you can actually buy it).

I am on a 54. The only thing I don't like is that the headtube is really tall. I have heard talk of a flatter top cap, but haven't seen it yet. When we were at the ToC, some of the guys I know were running the Venge without the factory top cap to get a bit lower, which works, but doesn't look so good...