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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:56 am 
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Uh, I'm pretty damn sure you should be able to change spiders/spidering therefore there is nothing stopping it working with crank based powermeters or I imagine plain old spiders. May need a little bit of tweaking by the manufacturer depending on exact dimensions. If not cannondale have just outdone shimano in the most expensive chainring stakes.


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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:57 am 
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The SiSL2 arms with Starnuts rumoured carbon spider, now that would be sweet 8)

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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
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here are the new rings
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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:19 am 
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Post Man Pat wrote:
here are the new rings



The pictures of the rings were already posted on BR article. Incase you missed them before the pics were taken down.

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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:21 am 
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Anyone seen info on who's making the new rings? FSA have basically been contracted for lots of Cannondale's 'recent' driveline stuff right?

If they're any good, hopefully they'll do some MTB combos too.


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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:55 am 
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Be cool if someone developed a 4 bolt spider to fit the new Dura Ace 11 rings 8)

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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:14 am 
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Those shift ramps and pins remind me of my Praxis rings.

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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
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I think based on DA 9000 it would be possible to get out the Dremel and remove some of those spider webs without affecting pedalling stiffness... A few minutes with a hacksaw at Madcow's testing facility would soon prove or disprove this theory. Anyone feeling rich / brave?


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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
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My aim is to pick up one of the cheap current version ones that will inevitably come on the market after this comes out. Visually I'm not digging the new spider, and I'm too light/weak anyways to even begin flexing bike parts, so the difference between the two would be almost non-existent for me.

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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
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SSB wrote:
My aim is to pick up one of the cheap current version ones that will inevitably come on the market after this comes out. Visually I'm not digging the new spider, and I'm too light/weak anyways to even begin flexing bike parts, so the difference between the two would be almost non-existent for me.



It is ugly, but damn light.

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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
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CBRE wrote:
SSB wrote:
My aim is to pick up one of the cheap current version ones that will inevitably come on the market after this comes out. Visually I'm not digging the new spider, and I'm too light/weak anyways to even begin flexing bike parts, so the difference between the two would be almost non-existent for me.



It is ugly, but damn light.

We'll see when the final version comes out, I'm curious to find out if the weight includes bearings or not. If it does, that's a ridiculous weight and I'll feel like crap for splurging on a Clavicula.

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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
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mythical wrote:
Those shift ramps and pins remind me of my Praxis rings.

That's why I was wondering if anyone had any idea who's making them. Praxis have shown a bunch of these things already.
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Not a pic of the actual version I was looking for, which from memory had reliefs similar to those on the back of the arms on the Cannondale versions. Wouldn't it be a nice surprise to find out they're making them :D


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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
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the updated bikerumor article mentions that the spiderring is forged, then machined, supporting the praxis theory.


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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:11 pm 
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Nice, they have said on bikradar that the spiderring is compatible with older gen Hollowgrams. I figured it was, but nice to know.

They give a price of $150, seems pretty reasonable for 2 rings and spider, of course you have to relace all of it at the same time.

Isn't a single DA ring more than that?


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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
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Praxis just released their own forged and machined rings in 52/36. Any chance the new spidering will come in that setup? PLEASE!


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