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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 2:19 am 
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Dear weight weenies,

I am vexed for choosing a new bike for race in coming season.
I am absolutely not a sprinter. So targeted the BMC race machine and Felt FC. I will apply the Sram Rival groupset on the bike for the rolling terrian race and circuitium race.
Anyone can untie my vexation?
Thank you.

Larry


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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 2:59 am 
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1.) which fits better?

2.) which fits better?

3.) if you're not a sprinter, why is one of the two types of racing you'll be targeting crit's?

4.) sounds like you would benefit from a lighter bike and don't need a huge amount of stiffness, in which case (assuming both give an equally good fit) I would look at the one with the ultimately lower frame and fork weight. As the components can be gradually upgraded to lighter stuff.


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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:59 am 
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i really enjoy my Race Machine. It's pretty freaking light for stock bike. i usually run a 303/404 mix and the bike is under 16 pounds with ultegra di2, pedals and cages. the ride is stiff but comfortable, tracks well and I feel really connected.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 6:30 am 
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RM is a stiff frame - more of a sprinter frame. Team Machine or FC may be a better comparison for you.


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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:17 am 
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grnrcr wrote:
RM is a stiff frame - more of a sprinter frame. Team Machine or FC may be a better comparison for you.


Rubbish. I ride a Cervelo R3 with Sram Red and 101's. Mate has the same build on a RM, only difference is tyre, bartape and saddle choice. I've ridden his as we are almost identical for bike fit and the RM was softer in rear compliance than my R3 AND stiffer up front. Best of both worlds. 4 years of bike evolution I guess.

If it's good enough for a bike nazi like Cadel...

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 2:25 pm 
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fwiw, everyone i talk to, people who have ridden both bikes (including the rep from BMC) says that the RM is a stiff bike more suited towards crits while the TM is an all day bike- it's supposed to have a more comfortable ride. having said that, the Tour magazine test said the opposite - that the RM was not overly stiff, and somewhat comfortable- go figure.


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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:11 pm 
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Not enough love in here for the Felt! :|


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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:53 pm 
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whats the weight like on the race machine?


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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:16 pm 
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The Felt is the one to go with. Very rarely mentioned, but a damn great bike


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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 12:37 am 
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beardking wrote:
whats the weight like on the race machine?


Damned good. Sram Red and a decently light wheels will easily get you under UCI limit.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:26 am 
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Imaking20 wrote:
Not enough love in here for the Felt! :|


Agreed. Many pros use the FC. :?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:05 am 
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SuperDave wrote:
Imaking20 wrote:
Not enough love in here for the Felt! :|


Agreed. Many pros use the FC. :?

-SD


And of course, pros use what they want! :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:17 am 
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Some, yes.

Some of the Felt sponsored pros have the option of choosing one of the 5-6 Felt frames availalbe that will fit them.
Some choose the FC over the other options.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:52 am 
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I choose the F3 over lots of bikes and I matter :smartass:


...to myself :|


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:00 am 
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The Felts are definitely shorter up front, so the fit will be a bit different.

I honestly like both and would go based on fit. Both are stiff, decently light, look nice, although the BMC is sliiiiightly better for me.

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