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My De Rosa was bought second hand from a mate for the princely sum of £300. Admittedly, I have put Record 11 & PMP on it but that doesn't change the fact that it handles like it's on rails. Coming down a Ligurian descent at almost 60kmh I dropped into a corner oblivious to the Fiat Panda coming up the hill. I changed path mid corner without the bike missing a beat. As for my heart, that's another matter entirely!

hello!
I want to buy a frame Oltre Black 53 size. The seller told me the weight of the frameset (incl frame, fork, seatpost and documents(!) of frame) 1.65 kg.
this is real weight of complete frameset Oltre? or it could be a fake Chinese? thanks

What size is that?
Is there any chance you can weigh the frame separately?
Or simply frame, headset, fork WITHOUT the 'plastic bag of information/brochures' ?

The weight as posted is kinda useless when there are items attached to it that would not be included on a build.

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Exp001

size 53

I do not know why the seller so weighed the frame, perhaps he is lazy.

mayhaps you all missed the joke...italian frames, "noodly"...ROTFL!

or maybe its just me and lack of sleep.

either way, i agree it is a nice looking frame.

I think so:
Fork - 370 grams
Seatpost - 200 grams

1650-370-200 = 1080 grams frame with docs ( )

Is it normal?
I thought it would weigh less than 950g.
Can a manufacturer have weight without headset?

1080g with docs is actually pretty good!

No idea what the docs weigh, but from memory they aren't exactly light.

It would be great to get actual, verified weights, but the estimates are fairly good for now. Thank you.

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Mine 55cm was 940g
(without documents)

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-- Bianchi Oltre Ultegra Di2 -- Cube Elite 29 Super HPC XTR -- Cannondale SuperX Ultegra Di2 -- Cannondale Jekyll XT -- Cannondale Capo --

with headset?

My Bianchi

Frame 945g (with seatpost clamp & 4*watercage bolts)


Fork 367g


Seatpost 167g


Headset FSA (with carbon spacer) 72g



p.s. docs 75g

And gotta say the Androni bikes looked really nice in the flesh. Bianchi have hit some good schemes at present, very nice

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Bianchi frames look much nicer in reality than in web images.

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Colnago Master X-light
Wilier 18carati

I got one a few months back before th XR was released - mechanical version nonetheless. The XR has a bit of wieght saving and extra stiffness but I wouldn't consider a swap out for the new frame for even a second. I build the Nero frame up with pretty much a 'stealth' kinda look - removing wheel decals from the black exalith rims etc.
I think the look of the Nero - the subtlty, understanded but very obvious class is what the ride is like - very smooth, flawless but almost seamless precision.