"PRO" Cycling Discussion

[KWalker]

So much for Phinney's supposed coming of age- losing the jersey in his speciality discipline. At least the obnoxious articles will stop.

If the cycling press cared so much about developing talent then why did they barely report on all the Bontrager riders woodshedding Mancebo et al at Gila? At least ToC will be interesting this year.

[stella-azzurra]

Taylor had 4 stitches in his ankle and it was swollen considering this he did OK.

[ichobi]

I never knew Phinney could speak Italian... BMC did pick up some good pace after Phinney got on the grass. That probably costed them like what 15 sec+ tops to regroup. Even if they done well, considering Katusha's time they wound't be able to beat it but probably save the jersey.

I missed Katusha's run. They also debuted the new TT frame. That's a really really good time. Never seen they done well on TTT.

[caseycycling]

Pretty suprising atleast to me that Rasmussen dropped off so early considering he was the best placed on Garmin at 13 seconds back. It is super impressive to me when riders like Phinney and Cavendish are able to ride at such a high level with injuries. Cavendish's road rash is just superficial, but to go out and ride a TTT is just amazing to me when most athletes in other sports would take weeks off to recover from a similar injury.

Phinney grew up in Italy so he speaks fluent Italian.

[KWalker]

Cav's whole left leg is basically a giant scab, I can't even imagine sleeping with that let alone racing a Grand Tour. That's one reason that they get paid what they do

[jooo]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/spectators-at-box-hill-hampton-court-to-be-charged-to-watch-olympic-road-races

Spectators will be charged to attend the 2012 Olympic Games road cycling events in prime viewing areas with London Organising Committee of the Olympic Games (LOCOG) citing that it's a move that will encourage more people to attend.

So making something (that's usually free) cost money, is likely to get more people to go?

[djconnel]

Phinney's refused to use his injury as an excuse for his reduced power today. However, anyone who's ever been injured knows it's incredibly draining. I can't imagine having and ankle like his and being able to ride a full-on 30+ minute interval effort. Trauma causes fatigue, not just the trauma from moving a bike from point A to point B, but also the trauma of injury and healing. I was super-impressed.

Nice debut for Canyon's time trial frame for Katusha to put out an incredible late-race split and come oh so close to pulling the stage upset. It was a fantastic ride by them.

[Kjetil]

So much for Phinney's supposed coming of age- losing the jersey in his speciality discipline. At least the obnoxious articles will stop.

Sorry to have to ask, but do you have a different tune?

[prendrefeu]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/spectators-at-box-hill-hampton-court-to-be-charged-to-watch-olympic-road-races

Spectators will be charged to attend the 2012 Olympic Games road cycling events in prime viewing areas with London Organising Committee of the Olympic Games (LOCOG) citing that it's a move that will encourage more people to attend.

So making something (that's usually free) cost money, is likely to get more people to go?

I believe it's for "prime viewing areas" only. This is similar to the VIP tents at events, which cost money either through tickets or through being a sponsor (which basically a very expensive ticket for some kickback comps). Whether that generates more people attending or not is not for certain.

[btompkins0112]

Cav's whole left leg is basically a giant scab, I can't even imagine sleeping with that let alone racing a Grand Tour. That's one reason that they get paid what they do

So admiration for Cav suffering through it, but can't find some compassion for Phinney losing the TTT with what looked like a horribly injured ankle?? Sounds like someone is a bit biased.

[KWalker]

Cav's whole left leg is basically a giant scab, I can't even imagine sleeping with that let alone racing a Grand Tour. That's one reason that they get paid what they do

So admiration for Cav suffering through it, but can't find some compassion for Phinney losing the TTT with what looked like a horribly injured ankle?? Sounds like someone is a bit biased.

Yup, I am biased. I think Phinney gets entirely too much media coverage when he hasn't produced much yet. I also think Cavs injuries look far worse and from personal experience with crashes, think they would be more painful to ride with. Cav still has to ride for stage wins, Phinney has nothing left to really do except attempt to finish.

[djconnel]

I think Phinney gets entirely too much media coverage when he hasn't produced much yet.

A few world championships on the track in the pursuit, a silver metal in the kilometer, a time trial win in a grand tour, a bunch of U23 victories, when five years ago he was still playing youth soccer, and with the celebrity of two extremely accomplished parents.

[stella-azzurra]

Kind of hard to compare Cavendish to Phinney right now. One is an established sprinter and the other is just starting out in the pros. There is a lot of money riding on Cavendish and his job is to win sprints in all the races he attends.
I don't think Phinney is making that type of money right now and his job is not to win sprints right now. Cav is not hurt that bad so pay for performance really comes into the picture. And Cavendish will tell you regardless of the money he wants to win every race he enters. But that is the moto of every professional who's job is to win races.

[KWalker]

I think Phinney gets entirely too much media coverage when he hasn't produced much yet.

A few world championships on the track in the pursuit, a silver metal in the kilometer, a time trial win in a grand tour, a bunch of U23 victories, when five years ago he was still playing youth soccer, and with the celebrity of two extremely accomplished parents.

He obviously has potential as demonstrated in U23 ranks, but that doesn't always mean much in terms of results on the World Tour level. I hope he lives up to his potential, but for now VN and CN publish a new article every time he takes a shit. That and he comes off as a bit full of himself. It would be awesome for the new crop of US U23 riders to mold into a generation of great cyclists and I think that'd be awesome if he is part of that, but it was premature to post all the coming of age articles because of 1 stage win. Just my opinion. Its like when any rider wins a random stage they run a "____ is back" article with the best example being Heinrich Haussler. Premature.

[ultyguy]

Nice debut for Canyon's time trial frame for Katusha to put out an incredible late-race split and come oh so close to pulling the stage upset. It was a fantastic ride by them.

Good piece over on velosnooze about it. Didn't know Simon Smart was in on it, they should've had him take a look at the AeroRoad when he was in. It does look super clean, on par with the Speed Concept in my eyes.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/05/ ... ike_217317