HOT: Active* forum members generally gain 5% discount at starbike.com store!
Weight Weenies
* FAQ    * Search    * Trending Topics
* Login   * Register
HOME Listings Articles FAQ Contact About




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ] 
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:29 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:43 am
Posts: 450
I am trying to build a light (budget light) set of wheels for my upcoming 5day trip in the Pyrenees and I am contemplating between carbon clinchers or alu. Actually I am between the Gigantex carbon clinchers 20mm rims, the Stans ZTR Alpha and the velocity A23. I already have some Token TK520TBT carbon hubs 20/24 that the rims will be built on. I currently am 165lbs.

Opinions? Or any other possible rims that I could go with?

_________________
Planet-X Nanolight HM - 5.63kg


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Wheels advice
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:29 am 


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:23 am 
Offline
Formerly known as wassertreter

Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:08 am
Posts: 1928
Location: Pedal Square
"Cheap", "Carbon" and "Clinchers" don't go together very well, especially when you're primarily targeting climbing. While you'd probably be ok, personally I'd rather be safe than sorry. Anyway you have the hubs already, but 20/24 at your (and mine too ...) weight doesn't give you a lot of safety margin. I'd probably go for at least 24/28 also to have a stiffer front wheel when braking hard into a switchback. (Also I'm generally the guy who doesn't bring the most weenie parts on a trip.)

So if you're set on your hubs, I'd use A23 or Kinlin 270 rims for a clincher wheel that's going to get lots of vertical.

_________________
Bikes: Raw Ti, 650b flatbar CX


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:30 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:10 am
Posts: 1842
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Stan's rims won't behave nicely on 20/24 hubs.

If you want to go light weight how about some HED rims?

If you don't want wide rims then the XR270s will do you ok.

As was mentioned-shallow CF clinchers......pass on that thanks

_________________
http://www.blingmybike.com.au - Shiny light weight bike parts


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:33 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:43 am
Posts: 450
Thanks, I thought as much about the gigantex.

While I have the hubs and it would be great if I could use them (they were initially bought for another pair of wheels that didn't happen), if the build doesn't work out with those I can always sell them and get something else as they are unused. While ascend is one thing and stiffness is important, I have to consider the never ending descends as well. How much Hed Ardennes rims go these days?

If I am not tied to these hubs, what would you go for?

_________________
Planet-X Nanolight HM - 5.63kg


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:45 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:59 am
Posts: 108
Location: Australia
Depends on your budget. For something light but durable the tune mig70 and mag170 would be good. Cheaper, a little heavier but good quality then dt240 would be good. For a set to hand down to your grandchildren then Chris King classic road would be good.

Sent from my ME860 using Tapatalk

_________________
N+1 It Never Stops


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:54 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:43 am
Posts: 450
Budget is around 250$(±30$) for hubs. (pricing the same as the token hubs).

How about the Stans with 24/28 Bikehubstore superlight hubs? Should be light but I don't know the durability of those hubs.

_________________
Planet-X Nanolight HM - 5.63kg


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:26 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:10 am
Posts: 1842
Location: Melbourne, Australia
jump in the wheel building thread for ideas.
for most things WW go to fair wheel cycles. They have the hed rims, but if you want the stan's and hubs with more spokes I'm sure they will help out.

_________________
http://www.blingmybike.com.au - Shiny light weight bike parts


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:43 am
Posts: 450
Thank you, I am trying to follow the wheel building thread but the information is overwhelming!

I am based in europe so fwc wouldn't be much of a help.

The only reason I am thinking for Stans instead of the Hed is the weight, it's going to be around 200gr less on them.

_________________
Planet-X Nanolight HM - 5.63kg


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:43 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:19 pm
Posts: 614
why the A23? if your worried about weight you can go lighter with the aerohead? the A23's come in about 50 grams more than advertised


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:57 pm 
Offline
Shop Owner

Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:12 am
Posts: 2194
Location: Alto, NM
Phill P wrote:
Stan's rims won't behave nicely on 20/24 hubs.


Really? My 18f and 24r are fine (170 lbs). Did a long switchback descent on them yesterday...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:29 am
Posts: 3316
Location: Athens, Greece
Extralite Hyperclinch SP

http://www.extralite.com/Products/HyperClinch%20SP.html

_________________
My 6530gr Wilier Cento Uno
My 8618gr Colnago Master X-light


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:43 am
Posts: 450
Can't afford these hubs, but their weight is sweet for an alu clincher.

Why people think a 20/24 build on Stans won't work? They won't be stiff enough or something else? Just to give you an idea I am now riding a set of Zondas for the past 3 years and I find them good enough in terms of stiffness.

_________________
Planet-X Nanolight HM - 5.63kg


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:51 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:24 pm
Posts: 53
Location: UK
I've got Tune Mig70 & Mag170 hubs on Stans Alpha 340 Rims, 20/28 and Sapim CX-Ray Spokes, they weigh 1200g. I'm 170lbs and quite a strong rider and they are as true as they were when new.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:16 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue May 12, 2009 10:03 am
Posts: 378
astranoc wrote:
I am trying to build a light (budget light) set of wheels for my upcoming 5day trip in the Pyrenees and I am contemplating between carbon clinchers or alu. Actually I am between the Gigantex carbon clinchers 20mm rims, the Stans ZTR Alpha and the velocity A23. I already have some Token TK520TBT carbon hubs 20/24 that the rims will be built on. I currently am 165lbs.

Opinions? Or any other possible rims that I could go with?

You wont have problems with the Stans at your weight provided you dont smash them into every hole in the road. You should only use carbon rims if you're comfortable descending in the high mountains, even then, if it rains it wont be pleasant at all.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:16 pm 


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wheels advice
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:28 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:47 pm
Posts: 1699
Location: Santa Cruz, California, USA
Unless you are racing, choose reliability over light weight. 200g extra is not going to make a noticeable difference on the climbs but it could make a difference between fighting with wheel problems vs sipping a post-ride beer with your friends.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ] 
Go to page 1, 2  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: -Robin-, thepeteh and 44 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

   Similar Topics   Author   Replies   Views   Last post 
There are no new unread posts for this topic. headset advice

in Road

KOGAN

1

391

Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:44 am

bricky21 View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. New headset advice, please

in Road

DMF

7

577

Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:31 pm

DMF View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Ui2 battery seatpost advice

in Road

KOGAN

11

1197

Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:33 am

drmutley View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Need advice on frame size

in Road

poppiholla

5

918

Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:54 pm

shimmeD View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Size-advice Canyon CF SLX

in Road

bruno2000

4

623

Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:51 am

bruno2000 View the latest post


It is currently Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:43 pm

All times are UTC + 1 hour




Advertising   –  FAQ   –  Contact   –  Convert   –  About

© Weight Weenies 2000-2013
hosted by starbike.com


How to get rid of these ads? Just register!


Powered by phpBB