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Ypsylon
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by Ypsylon

phourgenres wrote: I've never really understood how these lead riders decide to sprint, do they just just arbitraily pick a point from the finish line?


That depends. If your 10s sprint is 2400W, you want a 10s sprint.

If your 10s sprint is 801W, you want to take off with 30s to go. So it depends on the finishing straight and wind conditions.
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barry78
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by barry78

i was upgraded from cat 4 to cat 3 last year on points i won, for me the area where i seen the most improvment on my power numbers over the season was 5min power, good 5 min power will have there of there abouts coming up the finish.

Raced 3 times as a cat 3 this year so far placed in my 2nd race, power numbers are all up about 10% across the board, races dont seem any harder just bigger bunches and postioning is more important, as a strong cat4 last year i could ride at the front of the bunch the whole race, dont think i have the numbers to do that in cat 3 with all the attacks

went from about 3.8 watts/kg to 4.2 watts/kg ftp cat 4 to cat 3

phourgenres
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by phourgenres

Thanks for the feedback, Barry and Ypsylon.

johnsonj718
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by johnsonj718

Competitive Category 2: FTP = 4.63 Watt/kg. Max Sprint wattage = just shy of 1500. 68kg

Chiva
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by Chiva

barry78 wrote:i was upgraded from cat 4 to cat 3 last year on points i won, for me the area where i seen the most improvment on my power numbers over the season was 5min power, good 5 min power will have there of there abouts coming up the finish.

Raced 3 times as a cat 3 this year so far placed in my 2nd race, power numbers are all up about 10% across the board, races dont seem any harder just bigger bunches and postioning is more important, as a strong cat4 last year i could ride at the front of the bunch the whole race, dont think i have the numbers to do that in cat 3 with all the attacks

went from about 3.8 watts/kg to 4.2 watts/kg ftp cat 4 to cat 3


I'm Cat 4 and last summer my peak hit 4.2 w/kg. My "A" race saw me get 4th in TT about 13 sec away from 2nd place and 45 sec away from 1st. On the circuit race I got dropped (barely, but its all the same right) on the last hill by a lead group of 15 guys. Tried to bridge back but strong wind, gap got bigger and finished 2 minutes down. Next day 80 mile mountain stage was killing it, then on some big rollers halfway through, at 8000 ft elevation I was behind a guy who got gapped and as soon as I tried to go around, the first 8 guys saw I was gapped and put the hammer down and dropped me hard. I never caught back on. Bike racing is so incredibly humbling. It is such a tough sport.

So, 4.2 w/k was NOT good enough to win that Cat 4 stage race. Although both times I got dropped were mainly positioning errors on my part (not being in the first 5 guys when I needed to be). I didn't have the strength to make up for my lack of tactical savy. That has changed:) I will say the top 5 guys were pretty dang fast. Especially going uphill. They all were about 1/2 my age too. Lol.

barry78
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by barry78

Got 2nd in cat 3 race satruday, then got dropped on the final climb of a race on sunday, shit happens
Interesting thing lap 1 final climb i avaeraged around 320 watts on the climb 2nd time round 290 watts and i was out of the lead pack.
Still think i need another 20 watts at threshold to be where i wana be get upgraded out of cat 3

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