650B Randonneur - need recommendations

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xrs2
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by xrs2

Bump...updates, damnit!

My new (relevant) wheelset:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36397392@N ... 012-02-14/

MileHighMark
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by MileHighMark

xrs2 wrote:Bump...updates, damnit!

My new (relevant) ultralight 650B wheelset:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36397392@N ... 012-02-14/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Of course "ultralight" is a relative term here when you have a 390 g front generator hub.


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DYG
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by DYG

I don't want to steal his thunder but AdvanceSpark/Ahmet has been neglecting this thread, and his Bishop rando bike has turned out to be a real stunner!

Check it out:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28879558@N ... 499390397/

Wow!

AdvanceSpark
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by AdvanceSpark

Sorry for not being able to update the progress and keeping up with the posts. I had my hands full relocating from Turkey to Florida! :)

I've been painting walls, removing carpets, and laying down flooring for the last few weeks. Really tiring stuff if you've had people do them for you, and find yourself in an environment with expensive labor and no friends to help through the process.

Thanks for the link post. I was actually waiting to learn about the total weight of the bike to do an update. Now that the bike came out to be an amazing piece of work, I actually don't really care. I had very high expectations, and Mr. Bishop managed to deliver a bike that's far, far beyond of my imagination. He's just amazing.

It will be great to have that bike in Orange County, FL. I'm looking forward to see it in person, and take it out for a spin. A long one.

Will post more stuff as soon as I get rid of my BlackBerry, and have decent broadband internet at home :)

Cheers,

Ahmet

AdvanceSpark
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by AdvanceSpark

The bike was awarded "the best lugged frame" in NAHBS.

Here is the link to the whole process photos by Chris Bishop:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bishopbikes/6810014856/in/set-72157628089348263/

And finalized bike photos by John "Prolly" Watson
http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2012/03/beautiful-bicycle-2012-nahbs-bishop-650b-randonneur/

Here's NAHBS feature link:
http://2012.handmadebicycleshow.com/2012-news/2012/03/04/bishop-bikes-2/

AdvanceSpark
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by AdvanceSpark

Here are the photos by John "Prolly" Watson:

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availpunk9
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by availpunk9

That's very nice...

AdvanceSpark
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by AdvanceSpark

xrs2 wrote:Bump...updates, damnit!

My new (relevant) wheelset:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36397392@N ... 012-02-14/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Looks fantastic! I acquired a set of Stans rims too, but I think I will stick to Grand Bois rims for this bike. No need to shave off grams from the rims when you have a 500+g Selle Anatomica. Also GB rims nicely compliment the build too.

I have a historic racer in my mind which only will look historic at a glance but will feature new lightweight components hidden here and there. I had the idea when I saw Ralph Lauren's Alfa Romeo in Paris. That's why I'm keeping the Stans rims for!

Black Pari-Motos, Black rims, black spokes, silver hubs. Already have silver Mig70 and Mag180 for Campy. A polished or black pump cosmetically held in place with black leather straps. Black leather bar tapes and saddle... The paint should be greasy instead of glossy, the paint on the car looks amazing imho. I would happily go with carbon Record levers, derailleurs etc... I can use my Campy barends as DT shifters too. I have Tune Fast Foot compact cranks and seatpost sitting at home in Istanbul, and are polished instead of anodized. Must make a list of parts. Any ideas to add? I'm pretty sure a colorcoded rack and headlight would feel at home but then I don't need another randonneur which would not be nicer than my Bishop. A porteur would work though.

Here's the Alfa Romeo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/classicand ... 805851482/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The maroonish red one on the left.

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Although I photoshopped a randonneur bike, it would be very cool to have a road bike looking this heavy but below 7 kg. Unlikely with the fenders, but painted smooth fenders would make the build complete.

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jooo
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by jooo

The finish is great. I'm looking forward to a ride report. Let us know how you like the Pari-Moto tyres.

The historic racer sounds fantastic. I'd love to have something like that myself.

hungryalex
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by hungryalex

This build is beautiful! Great work
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Hugo7
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by Hugo7

xrs2 wrote:Bump...updates, damnit!
My new (relevant) wheelset:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36397392@N ... 012-02-14/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Unfortunately I can't get to the flickr.

What were the rims in the end? Stan's? If so were they rim brake specific, or did you just take a chance on disc ones?

Cheers.

AdvanceSpark
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by AdvanceSpark

Here's another link for photos:
http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2012/03/beautiful-bicycle-2012-nahbs-bishop-650b-randonneur/

In the end I decided to go with the heavier Grand Bois rims. Stans ZTR rims had an imperfection at the welding point that had to be machined out, de-anodized, and polished. The short life expectancy and high cost per rim didn't sound good to me. Think about replacing the rim for some reason... I'm waiting for Kirk Pacenti's new 650B rims to be available. The prototype was 387 grams and the polished finish looks very good.

I will buy a pair of Pacenti rims and build another wheelset laced around Tune hubs. Pacenti Pari-Motos for the lighter wheelset, and GB Lierre tires for the current dynamo hub wheelset...

Hugo7
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by Hugo7

Cheers.

Prolly's photo's look amazing - I've been following your build for a while with interest.

I asked about that link, as I had a feeling you posted details of the wheelbuilld in one of the early flikr pics...

...any how, you've answered my question. The GB's sound like the right move. The Stan's sounded awfully decadent.

Also I've got to say the fork has a beautiful shape.

jooo
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by jooo

Have you put many k's on it yet?

I really hope the Pacenti's come in multiple diameters like the MTB rims. The extrusions are too good to waste on a single wheel size.

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