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Wingnut
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:23 am 
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Looks like a round Ritchey post to me?

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carbon2329
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I couldn't tell if it is a proprietary shape like BMC.

The more I look at it, the more it looks like it is round.

That's good news!
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Copperband
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The style looks pretty similiar to what Scott foil is using...
Even the seatpost looks kind of square to me.

Just that the clamp is on the top of the top tube rather than the side which is what Scott Foil uses.
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JensW
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it´s round and 27,2 mm. so i don´t think it would be to hard to find a good seat post for it :D

better pictures on it http://road.cc/content/news/54379-taipe ... -road-bike
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cwdzoot
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JensW wrote:
gumgardner wrote:
I'm not 100% sure I believe that weight.


i gues will will find out :D i can just say that they weight that they mention on the site on the Alize and diablo frames is pretty spot on. my alize, in the painted version (that should be heavier), was 1036 grams for a 56 (they say 1040 gram). it was the same with diablo. so i don´t se why they would lie about this, specially considering that it was lighter from the beginning, and that they say sub 750 gram, and not i exact weight. but as i said, we will se in september :D


Interesting thing about Mike Pryde. He is not down with industry BS and in the case of the Diablo and Alize he insisted on publishing real world weights. Not only did they weight size Large and not size Medium but also with derailleur hanger and all frame hardware installed. I tend to take him serious when he publishes weight.

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mrfish
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It's a serious bike.

It looks like the offspring of a Parlee and BMC, with a bit of Scott thrown in. But that's no surprise as everyone begins to use the same CAD packages, same CFD and same materials in the same factories, tested in roughly the same ways...

So in the end the only difference will be brand, customer service, paint and how much warranty risk you're willing to take.
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cwdzoot wrote:
Interesting thing about Mike Pryde. He is not down with industry BS and in the case of the Diablo and Alize he insisted on publishing real world weights. Not only did they weight size Large and not size Medium but also with derailleur hanger and all frame hardware installed. I tend to take him serious when he publishes weight.



that´s how every frame should be weight. would be more hones to the customers.
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metanoize
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Corporate bikes will be corporate bikes! Just watch they'll release this frame with a fork who's rake is the same for all frame sizes!
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madcow wrote:
The more paint you have the more the frame weighs.


Yeah I'm a big advocate for naked carbon and I wasn't suggesting it should have some garish paint job. I just want to know what happened to beatiful naked carbon like the old Treks, Parlees, the 2x2 twill on Storcks/Spin etc. I hate the plasticy matte look on Specialized and all the new frames. It's hard to explain but I like seeing the structure of the carbon underneath with all the ugly tatty bits etc. Shiny clearcoat > Matte IMO.
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kavitator
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i hope they will be better than GURU Photon :smartass:

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JensW
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kavitator wrote:
i hope they will be better than GURU Photon :smartass:



wasn´t the guru even lighter?
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around that weight...but later heavier. Where is now?

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No Photon present at the Guru booth @ NAHBS. I was pretty surprised.

On matte black: it always looks better in the flesh than in low-pixel images.

The frame looks quite promising to me. I'd love to see geometry numbers. That's always the differentiating factor these days, where the frames are otherwise so similar.

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They definitely had one there, it wasn't the minimalist paint scheme though, so it looked pretty similar to the Praemio-R they had in front of it. They've definitely come in heavier than the ~750g they quote, the last two we got (both around 55x52cm) were 830g and 832g with hardware (in the minimalist paint scheme).
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spartan
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http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/guru-cycles-photon


btw. guru is now selling open mold Chinese frameset. sad.

http://www.gurubikes.com/enCA/products/flite/

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