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by sedluk

That is because Enda Marron made all of the numbers up.

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by 2011

When I was building my Parlee Z4 this past year, the shop had just got in a EVO frameset. I don't remember the numbers, but my Parlee Z4 was a hair lighter than the EVO of the same size.

I think Parlee Z5 SL is surely on the top of the list.

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by arousset

supersix evo in 48
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Wilier Zero.7 is supposed to be sub 800 grams fully painted in size Medium. :noidea:
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justkeepedaling
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by justkeepedaling

arousset wrote:supersix evo in 48


Exactly proved my point. A size 56 cm is not coming out to 695 grams. Oh, and by the way, a Cervelo R5 CA in size 48 cm weighs 660 grams.

http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... D1&act=url


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by JensW

justkeepedaling wrote:
arousset wrote:supersix evo in 48


Exactly proved my point. A size 56 cm is not coming out to 695 grams. Oh, and by the way, a Cervelo R5 CA in size 48 cm weighs 660 grams.

http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... D1&act=url" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



but how trust wordy is that scale?

rambotan
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by rambotan

justkeepedaling wrote:
Exactly proved my point. A size 56 cm is not coming out to 695 grams. Oh, and by the way, a Cervelo R5 CA in size 48 cm weighs 660 grams.



This is a Evo Red frameset with clearcoat. The ultimate version should be about 50g lighter.

How much does the Cervelo R5 CA cost?

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by gumgardner

echtogammut wrote:I think the BH Ultralight might be on that list.


If they were going on claimed weight, then yes. Otherwise...NO
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/bh-ultralight-just-in-33209

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justkeepedaling wrote:
arousset wrote:supersix evo in 48


Exactly proved my point. A size 56 cm is not coming out to 695 grams. Oh, and by the way, a Cervelo R5 CA in size 48 cm weighs 660 grams.

http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... D1&act=url" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Web site claims it's for the "Ultimate" frame.

It's possible they're binning frames, putting the 2-σ lightest on the Ultimate builds.

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by spartan

the evo frameset retails for $3500 vs $9000 for the cervelo. willier is $5500.

a 56 black/white came out to 800g(ride magazine). remove the paint and easy ~750gm.
evo was tested to be more durable the caad10 frame.

peter denk(designer of the evo) has stated a 639gm frame was possible but too expensive to build.


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justkeepedaling
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by justkeepedaling

Not too expensive to build. More like compromising strength and stiffness. Cervelo added weight to the production R5 CA too in order to meet other performance goals. As said, I have not seen nor heard of any production PRODUCTION Cannondale Evos in size 56 cm coming in at 695 grams. Oh yeah, and clearcoat/finish? No, I don't think it adds 50 grams. MAYBE half that.

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by mrfish

I don't have numbers, but my understanding is that the following are pretty close real-weight wise:

Parlee Z5 SL
Cannondale Evo
Cervelo R5 CA

Then a little way behind
R5 VWD
Scott Addict
Storck 0.6
etc...

Bottom line is that it doesn't matter too much unless you're going all-out on weight. Better to choose the one which fits best and/or fits your budget best, then equip it with real tyres, saddle, comfy bars and ride the hell out of it.

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by Enda Marron

Mr.Fish,
Do you have any numbers to put alongside these frames (56cm)?

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by mattiTWOROADS

I can only speak for the Parlee...

my z5sl size M (with parlee carbon mech hanger and bottle bolts) weighed in at 853g and the fork uncut was 295g. Perdy light.
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