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Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
SwimBikeRun
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by SwimBikeRun

...he would ride on Lightweight...
Guys, I have them, finally. After 10 months of painful waiting they have arrived just in time for the new season.
They are the new version sold by Carbonsports with the ID-Chip laminated in. They were a wee bit heavier then expected (check it out in the list), but hey, I rode a friends pair last year and the magic is in the low drag and the quick response due to their stiffness. Once you exceed 25 miles it just zooms you to the horizon.
I will receive the rear disc in March. that one will come with a Hugi for Campa 10 hub and will be my weapon in competitions. I will of course post the weight immediately.
Wait for some photos, I will also keep you guys posted about the riding experience, although it still is a bit chilly up here in Northern Germany with a mere 35 Fahrenheit.

P.S.: F* ADA, the thieves, ride the original ;-)
P.P.S.: Delivery seems to be down to 4-5 months due to increased output
Pinarello Galileo 7,0 kg
Canyon Speedmax 3 8,0 kg (ok for a tri bike...)

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asphaltdude
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:D Lucky you. Hope you'll enjoy then. The disc must be interesting too. Really light and cheaper than Mavic :shock:
Whow! That's a pretty damn nice garage door!

SwimBikeRun
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by SwimBikeRun

Here we go with some pics:
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Pinarello Galileo 7,0 kg
Canyon Speedmax 3 8,0 kg (ok for a tri bike...)

Terminator
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by Terminator

Nice babies :D

How is the ride on the Lightweights compared to your Zipps ?

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by Paul_nl

They're looking awesome!! 8) 8)

But with 1200gram they are heavier than Zipp 303 tubulars?? :?

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Paul_nl wrote:
But with 1200gram they are heavier than Zipp 303 tubulars?? :?


Yes, Lightweight are not the lightest wheels.... but..... they're really stiff. Martin's Lightweights weigh 510 (front) and 762 (rear), which means that the freehub mechanism must be really heavy :(
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Paul_nl wrote:They're looking awesome!! 8) 8)

But with 1200gram they are heavier than Zipp 303 tubulars?? :?


You can compare Zipp 303 and Lightweight on the German homepage of Carbonsports. It´s not only weight that matters...

Lightweight vs. 303

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Paul_nl wrote:They're looking awesome!! 8) 8)

But with 1200gram they are heavier than Zipp 303 tubulars?? :?

LWs are available in their current shape since 1995. Yes, i the meantime there are lighter wheels available.
But lightness alone is not everything - you could build a lighter wheelset with Tune hubs and old tubular rims that can weigh as little as 280g...
But what makes a good alround wheel is a combination of the factors weight, stiffness and aerodynamics. In the combination of these three factors the lightweights are still unrivaled!
Especially the extraordinary stiffness makes these wheels so outstanding.
I also own a pair of Zipp Olympic Gold which are a little lighter than the LWs and are not far behind in areodynamics, but the difference in stiffness is VERY noticeable (although the Zipps are not weak) and that makes LWs an incredible responsive ride. If you haven't ridden them you don't know how performing an uphill attack can feel!

BTW, the same can be said about the LWs disk :-)

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whats the idea behind a great big frame & the seat pushed right forward?

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:-) wrote:whats the idea behind a great big frame & the seat pushed right forward?

SwimBikeRun is a triathlet, so my guess is he might prefer the "american" position. And it is mostly climbers that like their saddle in the rear position, but SBR lives in Hamburg, iirc - veeeeery flat there :D

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I think it's for being closer to the bb. That way you're faster. [your power transfer is more direct]
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martin wrote:But lightness alone is not everything

Martin


YadaYadayada......... :lol:
maybe they should change their name to "not so lightweight" but stiff and aero...... :P

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Perry wrote:
martin wrote:But lightness alone is not everything

Martin


YadaYadayada......... :lol:
maybe they should change their name to "not so lightweight" but stiff and aero...... :P

Well, 1200g/pair is still not so bad. And i'd rather not have to open my rear brake every time i climb standing (or retrue the wheel after every second ride).
The name: What about Ksyrium "SL" (=superlight) then? :D

Martin
but maybe i'm mistaken and the "L" is for "lead"...
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martin wrote:
Perry wrote:
martin wrote:But lightness alone is not everything

Martin


YadaYadayada......... :lol:
maybe they should change their name to "not so lightweight" but stiff and aero...... :P

Well, 1200g/pair is still not so bad. And i'd rather not have to open my rear brake every time i climb standing (or retrue the wheel after every second ride).
The name: What about Ksyrium "SL" (=superlight) then? :D

Martin
but maybe i'm mistaken and the "L" is for "lead"...


hehe, that's a good one..."Ksyrium Super Lead" :twisted:
Ride lightly!

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Frankie - B wrote:I think it's for being closer to the bb. That way you're faster. [your power transfer is more direct]


i think i shud really take a piccy ov my new bike.... its way faster & lighter than your bikes :-)

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