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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:44 pm 
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sungod wrote:

also, i think using other pads invalidates the warranty, plus braking performance/pad wear might not be as good


In a recent Tour magazine wheel test they had this to say - "With the special brake pads Mavic recommends, a very soft Swissstop mixture, braking force with Exalith remained well below that of a normal aluminum rim" ... "When we switched to a harder standard brake pads (Shimano and SRAM) things began to look up.".

I sounds like I might be on the right track with wanting to use the standard Swissstop black pads! Maybe Mavic only chose the soft green pads to extend the life of the rim's coating, not for braking performance or pad longevity!


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:26 am 
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That Tour review makes no sense. The Mavic pads are harder than a normal SRAM or Shimano pad — we had a pair in not too long ago and the difference was noticeable with just a finger nail.

I put on a pair of Shimano pads and they wore very quickly, even though the "edges" of the brake surface had already been rounded over a few hundred km with the Mavic pads. The Mavic pads wore much more slowly.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:13 am 
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VNTech wrote:
That Tour review makes no sense. The Mavic pads are harder than a normal SRAM or Shimano pad — we had a pair in not too long ago and the difference was noticeable with just a finger nail.


When you say "Mavic pads" are you referring to the Swisstop green pads?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:52 pm 
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RedRacer wrote:
VNTech wrote:
That Tour review makes no sense. The Mavic pads are harder than a normal SRAM or Shimano pad — we had a pair in not too long ago and the difference was noticeable with just a finger nail.


When you say "Mavic pads" are you referring to the Swisstop green pads?


the pads for exalith are sold under the mavic brand, not swissstop, they have the mavic logo on them and the words "by swissstop"

so they are made by swissstop, reportedly using the same compound as ghp ii, but the shape is different

braking performance on exalith is *far* better than for swisstop black on plain alloy rims, i know because i use both, there's smoother modulation and they're much more reliable/consistent in the wet

they look like this...

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:58 pm 
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What he said ^

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:15 am 
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Goodmorning to everybody from Athens..
I am a happy owner of Μavic Ksyrium SLR's wheelset.
My problem is the sound made by the brakes even though i've done 2000km.
Indicate that the brakes are DA7900.
Also another problem is the green colour that stays on the surface of the crown of the pads.. how can you clean it?
I've tried with soap but nothing..

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:05 pm 
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Acetone.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:15 pm 
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SL58 wrote:
Acetone.


sure you will not damage the colour??


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:13 pm 
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hyperexcitability wrote:
SL58 wrote:
Acetone.


sure you will not damage the colour??


some other idea?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:38 pm 
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I use just soap and water and it cleans up quite well. I liked these wheels so much that I may get 1 more pair :podium: :podium: :podium: :podium:


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:31 pm 
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hyperexcitability wrote:
Goodmorning to everybody from Athens..
I am a happy owner of Μavic Ksyrium SLR's wheelset.
My problem is the sound made by the brakes even though i've done 2000km.
Indicate that the brakes are DA7900.
Also another problem is the green colour that stays on the surface of the crown of the pads.. how can you clean it?
I've tried with soap but nothing..

Thanks.


did you see the comment earlier in this thread about da7900 brake noise and suggestion on how to fix it?

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=88303#p765603

but they will *always* make a some noise when braking because the surface is milled

afaik the pad residue on the braking track is a good thing, if you keep cleaning it off surely you will simply increase wear, maybe MavicZack can comment on this one?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:58 pm 
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I met one of the owners the company Keronite who apply Exalith - it is a plasma-electrolytic oxidisation process and works at a molecular level. Using a solvent such as acetone would have no bearing on the material composition.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:30 pm 
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hi everybody,

i just bought the new Mavic Cosmic Carbone SLR wheels with Exalith breaking surface...
I just want to know whether it is possible to use the Exalith break pads on regular alloy rims??? I ride a lot on the flemish cobble stones and there i prefer alloy-rims instead of carbon...

thanks!!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:53 pm 
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You can, but the pads are harder and simply dont grab as good as most pads...




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What he said ^



What he said about him saying what he said...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:38 am 
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i want to change bearings on Ksyrium slr 2012, with ceramic..
where can find compatible?


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