They will be happy untill their fiber glass steerers snap off on a decent and FFuking die.
All I can say is that layers of fiber glass are being sandwiched between carbon cover sheets and pass for "carbon", saving 70% of material costs. But fiber glass is no carbon and taht's why Specialized/Cannondale/Trek/Colnago/... do not use it to make frames.
It's not only lame but also potentially murderous.
Look at the China milk scandel http://www.google.com.hk/url?q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal&sa=U&ei=Xt-7TvPFGo2viQex9Y3QBw&ved=0CBIQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNFaCxog01gKvVmUN8VxL8IFj_UU2w
(essentially manufacturer added fatal content so the milk could show higher protein content in tests). SOME people are just horrible human beings.
I agree with everything and I'm in no way trying to defend these people BUT besides that newspaper story(which I'm slightly doubtful about) the vast majority of people who have bought these have been happy with them. The guys morals trying to sell a £500 frameset for £1800 is another story though!
On the flip side, what about major brands selling generic frames with their own labels on for 3 times the price? Classic example is the Willier Izoard (pedalforce) or deroas r838 (ribble)?
But this is a bit OT and we could all argue until the cows come home on this one.
I hear and understand what you're saying. I'm just saying that there are a LOT of people who have these frames and if they were actually THAT dangerous then we would have heard many more stories about them breaking. Its possible that most of them are coming out of one or two factories where they are actually ok. Doesnt mean that some may be potentially dangerous, I'm just saying that these tend to be ok.
BTW, Cannondale, spesh etc all crack/break etc. (BTW I own a Cannondale SuperSix Hm and a Colnago C40HP)
Again I'm not trying to defend them, but I dont think the frames are total POS either.
Would you feel more comfortable riding behind someone on a frame they built themselves with dodgy welding or a chinese carbon bike?