
IMHO a frame that is built with straight tubes (carbon or steel or ti) must have a traditional geometry.
Aesthetically speaking it is all about pure elegance, 'confidence' and class.
andy2 wrote:
Really? So they have verified, in the windtunnel, that by putting non aero objects that cover their aero headtube to about 1/2 of the frontal are like in the pic - you go faster??
Or have 'people' read marketing department blurbs and drawn their own conclusions?
elviento wrote:So that my work doesn't go to waste, here is a neutral redition of less slope...
rruff wrote:elviento wrote:So that my work doesn't go to waste, here is a neutral redition of less slope...
I like the English frame with lots of slope the best.
A few things to consider:
The sloped frame has stiffer support for the rear brake. Could be noticeable with tiny stays.
The sloped frame is stiffer/lighter torsionally.
The sloped fame has more flex in the seatpost area... could be good for comfort, but bad if it is laterally too much.
elviento wrote:Epic -- would you care to elaborate a bit? If you are referring to the Tune/MCFK toppers, those are nice and indeed light, but I am not going with it due to the lack of setback and the general flimsy-ness (at least visually) of the "scale" design, plus my aesthetic preference for the topper to be "inside" the mast.
Epic-o wrote: I wasn't referring to any design that's already in the market
elviento wrote:If you are referring to the Tune/MCFK toppers, those are nice and indeed light, but I am not going with it due to the lack of setback and the general flimsy-ness (at least visually) of the "scale" design, plus my aesthetic preference for the topper to be "inside" the mast.
elviento wrote:Having seen too many designs over the years, I can't help thinking a lot of the designs out there in the name of "engineering" are nothing but aesthetic in nature or for marketing purposes.
jooo wrote:I guess I don't think the topper needs to be that complicated either.elviento wrote:If you are referring to the Tune/MCFK toppers, those are nice and indeed light, but I am not going with it due to the lack of setback and the general flimsy-ness (at least visually) of the "scale" design, plus my aesthetic preference for the topper to be "inside" the mast.elviento wrote:Having seen too many designs over the years, I can't help thinking a lot of the designs out there in the name of "engineering" are nothing but aesthetic in nature or for marketing purposes.
I'm picking on you again
edit: Thought I should say that your idea for a flippable setback/no setback topper is definitely a good one though.
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