Who? Me? I'm a portly 158 pounds these days. I need to ride more. This should provide incentive.

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TED ESSENFELD
Schoorl, Noord-Holland, Nederland
Bike Pics
English Custom Steel Internal di2
Litespeed Ghisallo

These frames look great and top marks to the builder.

In response to the brazing queries, if someone is in contact with the frame builder, ask if he has come across a gas fluxer. I suspect from the appearance of the work that he is using brush on flux. A gas fluxer lets liquid flux sit in the acetylene line with the gas bubbling through it, and totally removes the need for brushing on. It will make his life 10 times easier if he is not currently using it.

Looking forward to more pics.

Willie

Thanks Willie - yes I do use a gas fluxer, can't imagine brazing without one! But when silver brazing I have to apply the low temperature flux particular to that material, and I prefer to use silver whenever I am brazing direct to the butted sections of the tubing. Plus it has much better penetration than brass, so will suck completely under, for example, the front derailleur hanger.
Rob.

I understand Rob, apologies if it seemed I was trying to teach granny how to suck eggs. I didn't spot that it was silver type solder/brazing around the mounts and bits as I just assumed you'd "bronze welded" it all like the tacks.

Looking forward to more pics. I assume you smooth the joints at the end, but any chance of a "just done" photo or two as there are a few people (me) who get over excited about neat brazing.

Sorry for going off topic, just got a bit excited.

Willie

Here are a few pictures of the welds from my build that I found. Maybe this will show you what you are looking for.

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BIG DADDY B FLOW
AERO & LIGHT is RIGHT

Cervelo SLC 5890g/12.98 lbs

We should all be so lucky as to have 158 be our portly side. Clearly Rob's frames aren't for everyone, but I am coming around on them for those who are fit and right-sized. He clearly builds stuff no one else is doing. And, honestly, not everyone can ride unless pretty lean and mean.

All the internal routing still makes me a bit nervous, but BMan's and your frame are changing what I think about Rob's ideas.

I am well north of 158 and my bike is holding up very very well.

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BIG DADDY B FLOW
AERO & LIGHT is RIGHT

Cervelo SLC 5890g/12.98 lbs

Fork pretty much done.....

Rob, great work on the forks. Maybe an upgrade one day for me.

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BIG DADDY B FLOW
AERO & LIGHT is RIGHT

Cervelo SLC 5890g/12.98 lbs

How does one of these forks compare to an Edge or other carbon fork?

A lightweight steel fork will be a little heavier than a carbon fork (I'll weigh this one, though of course it has no steerer....), but will generally give a more resilient ride - you can see the fork tips moving and absorbing chatter from the road surface.
Rob.

still as stiff?

I wasn't looking for "stiff" on this build. This is for comfort. This bike is going to be used for all day rides over gently rolling terrain. I don't anticipate any sprinting on this bike. So I am certain it will be adequately stiff for my needs.

I think the fork looks amazing!

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TED ESSENFELD
Schoorl, Noord-Holland, Nederland
Bike Pics
English Custom Steel Internal di2
Litespeed Ghisallo

oh I'm not hating, I'm just wondering. I'm sure you can build something suitable with just about any material and since so many people just slap an Edge on there its cool to see the alternatives.

I confess to a bit of vanity with this project... I want it to be a comfortable, well-fitting bike, that attracts a lot of attention by being unique. It probably won't be a weight weenie in the sense of the sub-6.8 kg world, but it should still be pretty light compared to other steel rides, with a lot more personality.

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TED ESSENFELD
Schoorl, Noord-Holland, Nederland
Bike Pics
English Custom Steel Internal di2
Litespeed Ghisallo