Hood Reach: Shimano, Sram and Campy?
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Hello guys,
Does anybody know the reach comparison between the three brands? I guess it's hard to define reach in the hood, since they all have different curvatures. Just by eyeballing them, it looks like Shimano has the most reach and Sram the shortest. Is this an accurate assessment?
Thanks!
Does anybody know the reach comparison between the three brands? I guess it's hard to define reach in the hood, since they all have different curvatures. Just by eyeballing them, it looks like Shimano has the most reach and Sram the shortest. Is this an accurate assessment?
Thanks!
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We had this comparison a few years ago as well. (when Sram entered the market.) IIRC we then reached the same conclusion. Sram is shortest. Campa is medium and Shimano is long reach.
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Haven't shimano gotten shorter in thier latest briftors?
Shimano shorter
Campy 11 longer
SRAM the same as always
So who ranks where now?
7800>Campy11>7900>Campy10>SRAM?
(NOTE in terms of reach only!!!)
Shimano shorter
Campy 11 longer
SRAM the same as always
So who ranks where now?
7800>Campy11>7900>Campy10>SRAM?
(NOTE in terms of reach only!!!)
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I thought this was a good question so I just did some quick & dirty measurements:
Campy Athena 11: 65mm reach
Shimano 7950 Di2: 65mm reach
Shimano 5700: 65mm reach
SRAM Force: 60mm reach
Shimano 5600 105: 60mm reach
I measured from the beginning of the hood (closest to the bar) to where the lever approximately starts to go vertical. YMMV.
Campy Athena 11: 65mm reach
Shimano 7950 Di2: 65mm reach
Shimano 5700: 65mm reach
SRAM Force: 60mm reach
Shimano 5600 105: 60mm reach
I measured from the beginning of the hood (closest to the bar) to where the lever approximately starts to go vertical. YMMV.
Guys thanks for the answers. I guess the consensus is that Sram has less reach than Shimano.
Kudos to maggierose for actually measuring the reach. The difference seems much smaller than I had imagined though. Did you measure the reach of the silicon hood or the actual shifter body? I imagine the latter would be more accurate. I'd do this measurement myself but I've only got Shimanos...
Kudos to maggierose for actually measuring the reach. The difference seems much smaller than I had imagined though. Did you measure the reach of the silicon hood or the actual shifter body? I imagine the latter would be more accurate. I'd do this measurement myself but I've only got Shimanos...
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I crashed a sram lever on my cross bike and threw a right-hand ergo 10s on in it's place, not only does it work well enough with sram der and cassette, but the feel is surprisingly similar. Normally this stuff would drive me nuts but it's been months and I don't care to change it, or even put the left hand ergo lever on to match.
Don't know about campy 11 or 6700/7900.
Don't know about campy 11 or 6700/7900.
I've had all three and eventually gravitated from Shimano to SRAM RED to Campy Record. I've got small hands and the feel on the Campy hoods is really ideal for me plus they're angled for a more ergonomic feel. I never had a huge issue with hood reach.
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Digging this up, because it is such a relevant question regarding fit. We care a lot about Stack/Reach of frames and stem lengths, less about the reach of bars and apparently not at all about the reach of the levers... With rimbrake and hydro, the differences could be quite relevant.
Does anybody know a source for comparative data of shifters?
Or shall we just chip in here? What would a sensible, easily repeated measuring methodology look like? How do fitters do it?
Does anybody know a source for comparative data of shifters?
Or shall we just chip in here? What would a sensible, easily repeated measuring methodology look like? How do fitters do it?
Lots of bad info above. Campy hoods have the shortest reach. There was never any significant change in the hood reach. If I ever made the mistake of buying shimano or sram, I would plan on using a 10mm shorter stem. Reach to the brake levers is a separate issue. If the shifters have a lever adjustment, you'd need to know the range. Campy 12 levers have two positions. I've been modifying campy levers for nearly 15 years to shorten the lever reach. A little epoxy putty under the release pin will not allow the lever to open fully, so those of use with short fingers can reach them.
Just looking at pictures, I see most brake levers a lot further away from the bar than I could tolerate.
Just looking at pictures, I see most brake levers a lot further away from the bar than I could tolerate.
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This is something I've also asked here before. As someone correctly said to me: it's very hard to measure because it depends on several small derails that end up changing the measurements.
I can say I have sram hrd etap and on a bike shop I put my bike next to the 11spd di2 and the reach was the same between the two. At the limit, my fingers seemed a bit more cramped on the di2. Given that the new shimano 12spd increased reach by 4.6mm (or something like this) is fair to say that shimano di2 now has a tiny bit more reach that sram red hrd (not enough for me to worry about given that I'm currently not fully stretched out).
I cannot compare with campy as I actually never seen a bike with it irl. Nonetheless, everything I read points to the campy reach being the shortest.
I can say I have sram hrd etap and on a bike shop I put my bike next to the 11spd di2 and the reach was the same between the two. At the limit, my fingers seemed a bit more cramped on the di2. Given that the new shimano 12spd increased reach by 4.6mm (or something like this) is fair to say that shimano di2 now has a tiny bit more reach that sram red hrd (not enough for me to worry about given that I'm currently not fully stretched out).
I cannot compare with campy as I actually never seen a bike with it irl. Nonetheless, everything I read points to the campy reach being the shortest.