Cheap chinese carbon frames - Explain it to me
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"In the postmodern era the consumer should be perceived as an individual who, in a cultural context, is meaning-centred, and central to this approach is the recognition that the consumer does not make consumption choices solely from products’ utilities but from also from their symbolic meanings (Belk, 1988; Bourdieu, 1994; Dittmar, 1992; Douglas, 1982; Gabriel and Lang, 1995; Giddens, 1991; Goffman, 1959; McCracken, 1988). The functions of the symbolic meanings of products operate in two directions, outward in constructing the social world: Social-Symbolism, and inward towards constructing our self-identity: Self-Symbolism (Elliott, 1997)."
In simple words... any time a consumer chooses the A product vs the B product he uses a - small but important amount - of the political power he has.
In simple words... any time a consumer chooses the A product vs the B product he uses a - small but important amount - of the political power he has.
Apparently HongFu is a factory. Perhaps owned by another company but it seems to be real...
For those who haven't yet seen- a fella on RBR went to Shenzhen with a pal and took a tour of the HongFu factory and met the infamous Jenny...
http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showth ... p?t=227718
So apparently HongFu uses SK Chemicals SkyFlex pre-preg carbon... http://www.skchemicals.com/china/produc ... itemap.asp
For those who haven't yet seen- a fella on RBR went to Shenzhen with a pal and took a tour of the HongFu factory and met the infamous Jenny...
http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showth ... p?t=227718
So apparently HongFu uses SK Chemicals SkyFlex pre-preg carbon... http://www.skchemicals.com/china/produc ... itemap.asp
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showdown wrote:Apparently HongFu is a factory. Perhaps owned by another company but it seems to be real...
For those who haven't yet seen- a fella on RBR went to Shenzhen with a pal and took a tour of the HongFu factory and met the infamous Jenny...
http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showth ... p?t=227718
So apparently HongFu uses SK Chemicals SkyFlex pre-preg carbon... http://www.skchemicals.com/china/produc ... itemap.asp
This is Flybike. Again, Hongfu is not a factory.
so there is no Jenny?
So HongFu/DengFu are really FlyBike... cool with me.
http://gabeadz.com/karlo/DengFu/DengFu% ... ex.html#20
So what can we learn about FlyBike?
http://gabeadz.com/karlo/DengFu/DengFu% ... ex.html#20
So what can we learn about FlyBike?
thx for links!
frames and equipment are just industry stuff
frames and equipment are just industry stuff
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showdown wrote:So HongFu/DengFu are really FlyBike... cool with me.
http://gabeadz.com/karlo/DengFu/DengFu% ... ex.html#20
So what can we learn about FlyBike?
no they're not. they buy frames from Flybike and resell them.
Flybike is a new factory. only 2-3 years old.
Engineers came from Martec (owns Kuota) and Carbotec (makes Pina) and C6 etc..the frame that looks like Kredo and fork that looks like Onda is their work.
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showdown wrote:Phallenthoul- so what can you tell us about rims made by these various companies? I ask as you seem to have some very particular knowledge about the industry and I for one am quite curious...
Thanks
Sorry can't help... I don't usually buy carbon rims from frame manufacturers
FYI -- a trading company can easily arrange a factory tour. All he/she has to do is ask the factory. In fact he/she could even possibly have an office at the factory. But... in terms of legal relationship, such as ownership and management of the factory, it's a different story.
showdown wrote:Apparently HongFu is a factory. Perhaps owned by another company but it seems to be real...
Would be cool if it was true.
showdown wrote:So HongFu/DengFu are really FlyBike... cool with me.
So what can we learn about FlyBike?
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okay, question. some friends and i are looking at buying some frames from http://www.gotobike.com.cn/.
i've seen them referenced in these boards, but i'd actually like to make sure someone's actually dealt with them before i send them a chunk of cash.
thanks!
edited:
just found the GOTOBIKE thread on ww here. not much there though - would still appreciate hearing from anyone with any dealings.
i've seen them referenced in these boards, but i'd actually like to make sure someone's actually dealt with them before i send them a chunk of cash.
thanks!
edited:
just found the GOTOBIKE thread on ww here. not much there though - would still appreciate hearing from anyone with any dealings.
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kavitator wrote:So where to buy from?
Flybuy has no homepage
HongFu has
i heard on each frame tests are done (for quality control)...i dubt that
http://www.hzflybike.com/enindex.asp
Please note that their Chinese site is much faster, be patient when clicking links and the page will eventually show.
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Abdullah The Destroyer wrote:okay, question. some friends and i are looking at buying some frames from http://www.gotobike.com.cn/.
i've seen them referenced in these boards, but i'd actually like to make sure someone's actually dealt with them before i send them a chunk of cash.
thanks!
edited:
just found the GOTOBIKE thread on ww here. not much there though - would still appreciate hearing from anyone with any dealings.
If you go to RoadBikeReview's forums, there are at least 4 threads about these generic frames, and most of the purchases are being done with HongFu. I believe they are on "Thread 3.0" now (meaning the third thread... it's been that popular over there). GoToBike (?) apparently has new frames out too, as mentioned in Thread 3.0 - but there is little detail being released about them aside from pictures and shop drawings.
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