If it was a poorly laced up wheel then why would Reynolds and Zipp use it?
............Nah. I'll just shut up....
Ciao,
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Superlite wrote:As reassuring as a 15 year old having wheels built.
superlite wrote:Just because the lacing isn't the "norm" on my wheels doesn't mean it wasn't done right or built well. Anyone who has Mike's hand built wheels know how good they are, anyone have pics of them?
ifdeluxe wrote:From Jobst Brandt:
"Tension changes resulting from pedaling cause an interlaced spoke crossing to move toward the side of the pulling spoke. At the crossing point, the tighter (pulling) spoke straightens while the other spoke bends more. This moves the crossing point inward or outward depending on the spoking. If the derailleur is near the spokes and the pulling spokes come from outside of the flange, clearance will be reduced when torque is transmitted With pulling spokes coming from inside the flange, derailleur clearance increases with torque."
ifdeluxe wrote:So just to review.......Jobst Brandt and Sheldon Brown say that Mike Garcia did it right......
Also I think that 120kgRider makes an extremely important point, and one that is hard to argue with.
-Thanks
Stoeperd wrote:@ cadence90: DTSD_road_01 are there missing some spokes? Can you ride with it? Why is that? I ask these questions because i want to build a light wheelset and maybe i can "forget" some spokes to be lighter .
drjones96 wrote:My Rolf Prima Vigor rear has the push and pull drive side spokes with elbows facing out and just the opposite on the other side.....but then the Vigors pretty much go against all the traditional "rules". One thing I've noticed about my wheels is that my RDer cage is extremely close to the spokes when i'm on the biggest cog on the back. I'm talking 2mm's. In this instant It would probably have been better for them to put the elbows in to allow more clearance on the RDer cage.
120kgRider wrote:This is like "race lacing" which uses spoke bend orientation to change the balance of tension on drive and non-drive spokes. Elbows out on drive side makes that side of the triangle just that much wider (like 3-4mm) and elbows in on the non-drive makes that side just that bit narrower, thus making drive and non-drive spokes more uniform in tension. It actually works, but there are often largest cog and rear der clearance issues if it's not done just right or if you use the wrong mix of parts (which can't be calculated or known, just discovered if you're unlucky enough to have the bad juju)...
divve wrote:Just for the record before things get even more confusing:
Trailing = pull spokes
Leading = push spokes
As an example the DT Swiss wheel above have trailing/pull spokes heads out on both sides of the hub.