Heavy Wheel

[ALx]

yo! i want to build a pair of REALLY heavy wheel for training... hehe litle unusual topic but i wanna feel the biggest difference when i switch for my racing wheels... any sugestion?

[asphaltdude]

Rigida DP18, plain 2.0 spokes, ultegra hubs.

[ElDuderino]

I was thinking about making the exact same post! I'm well on my way...I've got 36 hole open pro ceramics, 14g DT spokes, Record Hubs (not the heaviest, but hey...), and I just got an anchor of a cassette...Veloce 10v 12-25...almost 300 grams. I'll post total weight (wheel, tube, tire, cassette, skewer) of complete rear wheel when i put it all together...

Can anyone verify that this wouldn't be a hinderance to training? I think the more significant the difference between the wheels (especially rim), the more it can be felt when switching over...common sense, no?

[zakeen]

....I've got 36 hole open pro ceramics, 14g DT spokes....

Im thinking.... 36 hole X 14g spokes = 504grams! x 2(front and rear) 1008grams of spokes!!!!!!!

I have a set of wheels lighter then that!

But you are right! you will get the whole WOW FACTOR when you switch. On paper it wont make you any stronger, but it will do many good things to your head - and that is the most important part! so you will ride faster.

[Enforcer]

Rear wheel

Shimano Ultegra Fh-6500 36h: 410g
Rim: Mavic cxp33: 470g
Spokes: DT Champion 36 = 250g
Nipples: 34g

= 1182gram

Front wheel

Shimano Ultegra HB-6500 198g
Mavic cxp33: 470g
Spokes: DT Champion 36 = 250g
Nipples: 34g

970gram

Total: 2152gram

[zakeen]

Nice!!! they will make you strong!

[520 Dan]

the only downside i can see to training on a heavy wheel is if you cannot get the wheels up to as high a speed as you can with a racing wheel. TO a certain extent one must "feel" race speeds in training in order to sustain them during races. However, if you have tank wheels you traing on 80% of the time and lighter ones you use when doing tempo type work, then I see no problem at all.

[Cyco]

Whilst the plain 2.0mm spokes will be heavier a DB spoke will build a more durable wheel. A DT Alpine 3 is almost the same weigh in a 2/1.8/2.3 profile.

We had a wheel at uni that was about 10kg, but we had the rim wrapped in lead tape. Not sure how much it would add, but on a double eyeletted rim you could melt down some lead and fill the eyelets after the wheel is built.

Also try using a single in the tyre than a regular tube, and install a set of Mr Tuffys. This combo alone will cost you about 10km/h in rolling speed.

[madcow]

Velocity Deep V rims 520grams
105 hubs 412/207 grams
14g spokes 245 grams w/ brass nipples x36
Specialized Armadillo 700x23 466grams
thorn resistant tube 274 grams
tuffy liner 65 grams

Rear wheel 1982grams
Front wheel 1777grams.

[brianwchan]

i'd recommend getting solid rubber tires. Yes, people do make those.

Never having to worry about a puncture= priceless.

[520 Dan]

don't EVER use solid rubber tires. instead run "the system" Take an Armadillo tire as wide as you can fit and throw a 19mm tubular tire in there. Fill the Tub with sealant. It would take a ride in the parking lot of the razorblade factory to puncture.

[Bruiser]

Training on heavy wheels (or bike) does make you stronger as you're never happy with your power output.

You'll sit in a bunch and the bike will sap the energy out of you at your normal speed.

When you swap bike you'll be sitting in the race at the same speed thinking "can't we go a bit fater?"

[Joel]

As above Rigida rims etc
and water in the tubes quite funny if you have a flat tyre

[ALx]

As above Rigida rims etc
and water in the tubes quite funny if you have a flat tyre

water in tube is that really possible?!?!?!!!

[Bruiser]

I've seen it before, but getting it in can't be easy.