Need some help

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
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JTC
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by JTC

All right, here is where I am at right now. The fork, stem, and seatpost are still debateable. Am I forgetting anything? Also, I weighed the standard cables that came with the levers, but plan on using Metawire or Nokon. How much weight can I expect to lose there? Any help or suggestions appreciated.
Kuota Parts List

Weight (g) Notes Purchased
Frame Kuota Khan 57cm 1350 Advertised Weight Yes
Fork Kuota K27 415.3 True Weight Uncut Yes
Head Set Tiso Joe Grafite (1 1/8'') 60.2 True Weight Yes
Head Set Spacers Kuota Carbon 19.6 True Weight Yes
Expander and Top Cap Tiso 33.3 True Weight Yes
Seat Post Kuota SP15 186.1 True Weight Yes
Seat Post Clamp Kuota 22.1 True Weight Yes
Saddle San Marco Aspide Composite Ti 114.4 True Weight Yes
Cranks Power Arm 323.5 True Weight Yes
Chain Rings: 53 Tooth TA 88 True Weight Yes
35 Tooth TA 34.3 True Weight Yes
Chain Ring Bolts Tiso 9.2 True Weight Yes
Crank Fixing Bolt Tiso 14.8 True Weight Yes
Stem Kuota Carbon 167.9 True Weight Yes
Bars Easton EC90 44mm 206.5 True Weight Yes
Cork Kuota 49.4 True Weight Uninstalled Yes
Levers Campy Record 04' 326.6 Advertised Weight Yes
Shifting Cables Metawire 247.4
Cable Stops Kuota 7.3 True Weight Yes
Brake Calipers 200
Brake Cables Metawire
Front Derailleur Campy Record 04' 70.5 True Weight Yes
Front Derailleur Frame Clamp Kuota 24.2 True Weight With Screws Yes
Rear Derailleur Tiso 178.6 True Weight Yes
Wheels American Classic Carbon 1160 Advertised Weight Yes
Front Tire Tufo S3 Lite 165 165 True Weight Yes
Rear Tire Tufo S3 Lite 195 195 True Weight Yes
Skewers FRM Pro 2 67 Advertised Weight
Cassette Tiso K27 134.8 True Weight Yes
Lockring Tiso 5.5 True Weight Yes
Chain Campy Record C10 Ultra 04' 259 Advertised Weight
Bottom Bracket Phil Wood Titanium 140.5 True Weight Yes
Bottom Bracket Cups Phil Wood Titanium 11 Advertised Weight Yes
Pedals Speedplay X-1 w/ Superlite Inserts 134.1 True Weight Yes
Bottle Cages Elite Ciussi Patao Carbon (2) 58 Advertised Weight
Bottle Cages Screws Kuota 11.3 True Weight Yes
Total: 6490.4
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Superlite
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by Superlite

Computer perhapes? Plus the other thing you cant really weigh, i.e. air and grease. You sure you want to use those tires? There not something that you can really ride around on. The front I beleive is a track only tire, or for use on a time trial with a clean course.

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JTC
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by JTC

I have used these before and while they do have a poor tread life they ride great. Besides I will not be on this bike ever day. My good old ti Colnago w/ std 32 hole built wheels and heavy training tires is my training bike. Most people do not include computers in the equasion, so I don't plan on including it. As far as tubular glue and grease, how much weight do you think I can expect it to add? Anyone have any ideas? I would rather not have any suprises when I get it finished.

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Superlite
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by Superlite

Every time I do a build there is usually an error of about 50g, so on every bike build I make I add 50g.

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Rogue
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by Rogue

Hi

Go for a USE carbon seatpost. They are absolutely great and will save you about 50 grams. They can however be a bit dodgy to setup the first time so be warned. :)
Pain is weakness leaving the body.

popawheelie
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by popawheelie

Ive got the same Tufo tubulars on my bike and I used the new Tufo extreme tape. It works great and is light.
I had a Use post that broke so I went to a light Ti post by
www.boldprecision.com
This is a well made post by a guy that will talk to you. 137 grams for the short 27.2 mm post. I heard that he makes a lighter one but I'm not sure.
He races superbikes too! That's him racing his bike on his home page.

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tunecampa
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by tunecampa

tune carbon or b-t-p aramid Bottlecages
9gr or 4,5gr

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by :-)

tufos are best wiv a bit ov the sealant in... ive used em all season & on less than perfect roads wiv no trouble :D

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Ye Olde Balde One
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by Ye Olde Balde One

What is the post diameter?
Ride lightly!

JTC
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by JTC

Post Diameter is 30mm. I was thinking of trying switching to an AX-Lightness post and Storck frok which would save me at least 150g putting me under my target of sub-14 lbs.

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Ye Olde Balde One
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by Ye Olde Balde One

JTC wrote:Post Diameter is 30mm. I was thinking of trying switching to an AX-Lightness post and Storck frok which would save me at least 150g putting me under my target of sub-14 lbs.


30.0mm? Wierd size isn't it?
Ride lightly!

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JTC
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by JTC

Yah. I thought the sam thing. The seat post is actually provided with the frame. I am guessing a 27.2 would work with a shim.

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