Litespeed Ghisallo-weight weenie dream bike

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xnavalav8r
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by xnavalav8r

HanSolo wrote:Very nice ride but I would never go with DA for a WW ride. Sram Red Shifters and RD own all in the weight department.


I agree as far as stock weight is concerned. But from a cost vs. weight savings standpoint, I couldn't justify buying a new group when I was able to substantially tune my existing DA parts for a fraction of the cost... all from Ebay.

The only parts not on par with (or lighter than) Red after tuning are the brake/shift levers. Considering the weight savings I got out of the THM cranks and bottom bracket with fibre lyte rings, my group wound up weighing less than Red and I funded it entirely by selling old parts on Ebay.

I run DA on all my road and CX bikes. I am comfortable with it and enjoy the performance and durability. That alone is worth a couple grams of added weight.

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by okilite42

Ted, thanks for the response. So I took your advice and started making a few purchases on ebay today. I almost bought a new Ghisallo frame last week but held off. Today when I added up the weights of my components with the Ghisallo frame it came out to under 12 lbs and was a little over 12 lbs with my Ardennes frame. For now I will stick with my Ardennes and loose the weight in my waistline. Maybe next year I will spring for a Ghisallo frame unless ofcouse I come across something on ebay I just can't pass up. The pictures of your bike look awesome and give me something to strive for. Thanks again, Paul

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xnavalav8r
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okilite42 wrote:Ted, thanks for the response. So I took your advice and started making a few purchases on ebay today. I almost bought a new Ghisallo frame last week but held off. Today when I added up the weights of my components with the Ghisallo frame it came out to under 12 lbs and was a little over 12 lbs with my Ardennes frame. For now I will stick with my Ardennes and loose the weight in my waistline. Maybe next year I will spring for a Ghisallo frame unless ofcouse I come across something on ebay I just can't pass up. The pictures of your bike look awesome and give me something to strive for. Thanks again, Paul


Paul, I'm headed your way in a few weeks. I'll bring my Ghisallo down. let me know if you'd like to get out for a ride. I'll be at White Beach. PM me for e-mail and telephone contact info.
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by ferrarista

xnavalav8r wrote:

* Jagwire carbon Rocket cable adjuster
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Did you weigh the carbon cable adjuster?

also the ones on the downtube?

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by Robert Baker

"Here is how I got my 182 gram short cage Dura Ace rear derailleur down to 145 grams...

Dura-Ace Rear Derailleur New In Box RD-7800SS short Cage
* Alloy hanger bolt
* Alloy cable clamp bolt
* Alloy plate Axle bolt
* Jagwire carbon Rocket cable adjuster
* KCNC Ceramic Bearing jockey wheels
* Alloy mech jockey bolts
* RS P carbon outer plate
* RS P carbon inner plate
* Titanium Spring "


Could you please tell me which spring on the derailleur you replaced with a Ti one and where did you get ? Thanks!
Rob

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A current photo. Not much has changed. Decals removed from wheels. Training tubulars installed (Conti Gatorskin). Garmin 705 and associated sensors installed (6.2 kg with seatbag). I'm doing some non-UCI/USAC races next month so I'm going to race the bike as is. For some later USAC races I'm going to add some weight... alloy chainrings, standard D/A derailleur, D/A cassette, D/A chain, and Yokozuna reaction cables. That should get me to 6.8. If not I'll go with a heavier seatpost as well.

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Custom, lightweight wheelset coming soon. Sub-1000 grams, sub-US$1000.00.

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by HammerTime2

xnavalav8r wrote:... I have noticed a bit of flex when climbing out of the saddle which manifests itself in a creak at the skewer. I think this has as much to do with the Carbon-ti titanium skewer I am using. When I installed a steel skewer the creaking went away.
Not the most timely advice, but have you lubricated the skewers?

xnavalav8r
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by xnavalav8r

To be honest, I just torqued down the skewer a little tighter and no more squeak.

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by xnavalav8r

New wheels installed. New weight is 5.72kg with Garmin computer hardware installed.

Pics here... viewtopic.php?f=3&t=62998&start=150

xnavalav8r
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by xnavalav8r

In hillclimbing mode... including Recon 11-36 Cassette (155g) and tuned DA rear derailleur. Ready for Mt. Washington practice ride this weekend.

Updates since last post include a 44cm Easton EC90 SLX3 handlebar, Easton EC90 seback seatpost, Cane Creek AER Headset.

I experienced some slipping of the seatpost since replacing the KCNC post I had previously, but I needed a little setback so I made it work. I wound up going back to the stock Litespeed clamp which seems to be doing the trick, but weighs about 5 times as much as the Omni clamp I had been using. After breaking two binder bolts with the Omni clamp I decided to accept a weight penalty to improve performance.

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by prendrefeu

Did you extend the DA's cage length?
I had no idea that DA rear can accommodate up to 36t.
Normally when folks go beyond 28t, we'd see the use of a MTB derailleur (tuned, of course) with a medium or long cage.
Or SRAM Apex! :thumbup:
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by bencolem

What the hell are you climbing up? Brick walls? Seriously, that looks ridiculous!

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by xnavalav8r

Climbing Mt. Washington... 6000 feet in 7.6 miles.

I used a long cage modified DA derailleur. I added an extra-long b-tension screw to keep the derailleur cage from rubbing on the largest cog. It works perfectly.

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by bencolem

16% average over 12.2km's? Okay, I take it back :faint:

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