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 Post subject: Deda Newton mass
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:57 pm 
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I weighted two 42cm o-o's in a local shop, and got 250 and 240 grams (10 gram precision). A Ritchey Comp, which is around 35% of the price (and not even Ritchey's top alloy bar) was 240 g in the same width (40cm c-c).

From the listings, I conclude they hit spec @ around 34 cm :):
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You forgot the Italian conversion formula that all Italian manufacturers use...it usually subtracts at least 15% of the final weight.

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You forgot the Italian conversion formula that all Italian manufacturers use...it usually subtracts at least 15% of the final weight.


And people still buy their stuff! Like those Pinarello Paris! :D


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Ritchey should claim 100grams for the WCS stem so they get a fair go.


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santacruzxt wrote:
You forgot the Italian conversion formula that all Italian manufacturers use...it usually subtracts at least 15% of the final weight.

And adds 50-100% to the price.


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Even though this is weight weenies, the Deda bars are MUCH stiffer and in my opinion have a better shape.


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I was fortunate enought to throw a EA 70 42cm c-c on a scale before purchasing. Was 296g, 240 claimed, for the 40cm, I suppose. So, do they buy their scales in Italy?

After this I was going for the Newton or Supernatural :evil:

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i had an EA70 some time ago in size 40, came in at 226g. guess i got lucky..


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i had an EA70 some time ago in size 40, came in at 226g. guess i got lucky..


The Eastons do much better than Deda or FSA in the listings:
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/listi ... handlebars

The Deda and the FSAs tend to both run about 20% over. Ridiculous. It's bad enough they make claims for their own stuff. It's just as bad on-line retailers perpetuate for fraud. I'll cut a 10% margin, but more than that, in a small size, is just a lie.

All the Ritchey stuff I've weighed comes in close to spec. In a local shop, a 10cm WCS 4-axis was an impressive 107 grams. I weighed a pair of 42cm o-o Deda Newtons @ 240 and 250 grams (consistent with the listings data, in the plot). A Ritchey Comp handlebar, same width as the Newton (40cm c-c), 1/3 the price, was 240 grams. And that's not even their high-end alloy bar.


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Not only that... I have weighed both Newton and Magic bars on the same scale (same size and shape) and both come in at EXACTLY the same weight... (251 grams)


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