King Weel wrote:(Quote Permanentjaun (senior member)): "A runner takes an average of 5,000 strides in a marathon. ..."
Not to mention that's some really long strides at 27.687 feet (7.991475 meters) per "stride".
King Weel wrote:(Quote Permanentjaun (senior member)): "A runner takes an average of 5,000 strides in a marathon. ..."
OJ wrote:I've been riding 32 spoke Open Pros for many years. This spring I bought Reynolds Alta Races and the difference was very noticeable. Sure there are other factors than weight but there are other factors in all the bike components...it's not only about weight. Of course for some weight is everything but that group doesn't represent the majority.
I can tell one pound difference in wheels by riding a bike and I'm not a HC weenie...not even close. Two pound difference in wheels/tires/tubes is huge and you will notice the difference.
For me it's much easier to understand tech-freaks and weight weenies etc. than some brand lovers.
EDIT: I think lightest is not the best but best stuff is often very close to lightest in weight.
Also hate the misconceptions that light parts are always fragile and expensive.
John979 wrote:Placebo. Science and testing does not back your claim. Incrementally better -- yes. "Huge" difference -- not.
stella-azzurra wrote:Also hate the misconceptions that light parts are always fragile and expensive.
Well most light parts are fragile...and expensive is a relative term. Many "kids" on the bike forums don't have a lot money to throw around. So $400 for a complete bike is a chunk of change. Since WW has a more finacially established population $400 for a pair of wheels is rather cheap when you figure it in a $5000 bike.
Here is the bottom line. The people that have the money to spend and get the lightest parts like to do that because they can afford it (in most cases) and it's something they like to do and have. In most cases it has nothing to do with how well they ride, how strong or weak they are, if they are racing in a bike club, or going on a Sunday ride.
With that said I personally don't mind beating up on people (figuratively speaking) with expensive or inexpensive bike on the road. It's all about the engine and how you tune it.
stella-azzurra wrote:Since WW has a more finacially established population...
RoadKill wrote:Possible placebo, but I gain between 1.4 to 1.6 mph to my average speed, at the same perceived level of effort, when I switch from my Kyserium SL's to my Zipp 404's. That has been repeatable and consistent. Throwing out "bad days" and "good days" of physical performance.
RoadKill wrote:Possible placebo, but I gain between 1.4 to 1.6 mph to my average speed, at the same perceived level of effort, when I switch from my Kyserium SL's to my Zipp 404's. That has been repeatable and consistent. Throwing out "bad days" and "good days" of physical performance.
RoadKill wrote:Possible placebo, but I gain between 1.4 to 1.6 mph to my average speed, at the same perceived level of effort, when I switch from my Kyserium SL's to my Zipp 404's. That has been repeatable and consistent. Throwing out "bad days" and "good days" of physical performance.
celerystalksme wrote:according to many people at bf...and according to velonews...and lennard zinn...and s.s. wilson in 'scientific america'..and countless other "experts"...a pound off the wheels is worth more than a pound off the frame